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[BananaCucho]

Who was Sordros

[Tayl0r Swift]

27 (reaver) pings me. let me give an excuse for not having any good reads before starting. also isnt pocketing something that only scum would have to do?
50 (judgement) strikes me as wayyy too tryhard for that stage in the game. overanalyzing that much doesnt feel natural. judgements later posts on that page also reek of teaching and trying to score easy townpoints.
74 raya is probably town
104 (italiano) is odd. pretty defensive and finger-pointy and generally sounds like scum trying to sound like theyre posting from a town mindset.
113 (reaver) uh excuse me? where is any of this coming from? booo. this long wall of posts has some good stuff but its too long and its making me suspicious.
150 (frogster) is a good one
152 (judgement) is a good response but NAI and proves that judgement is pretty self-aware in wording, so guess we will have to evaluate content rather than phrasing.
165 (raya) is interesting. raya said she townhunts, but is here pretty aggressive in scumhunting. hmm
180 (frog) is bad. frog seems to really be digging here.

i caught up to the top of page 9. more to come later.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Taylor Swift

[BananaCucho]

She had a blank space, and he wrote her name O.o

[Gamma Emerald]

At the moment I'm feeling like this is a four-scum setup.

Lol what

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.7

callforjudgement(4)

~ RCEnigma(45), SJReaver(49), Nosferatu(55), ItalianoVD(42)

geraintm(2)

~ Gamma Emerald(58), callforjudgement(39)

WaltertheDunce10(1)

~ Raya36(33)

Tayl0r Swift(1)

~ Not_Mafia(11)

Not_Mafia(1)

~ geraintm(33)

Nosferatu(1)

~ Frogsterking(17)

ItalianoVD(1)

~ BananaCucho(53)

Frogsterking(1)

~ WaltertheDunce10(48)


Not Voting (1): Tayl0r Swift(2)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-06 11:18:30)

[callforjudgement]

I think you underestimate how puzzled I can be by other players. I had had a conversation with them about how they knew someone had voted for scum, worked out they meant one exact vote on one exact player, and then they just went and vigged someone else. I wanted to know why.

I guess it's natural to want to know why someone does something weird. But information that doesn't help in figuring out anyone's alignment is

dangerous

to know as town, especially if publicly posted in the thread – the scum will learn it too, and they can make better use of it than a townie can. This is why, for example, it's hugely anti-town to push someone to claim (except if you have a guilty on them, or during a generally agreed-upon massclaim). So as town, you have to train yourself into not asking questions when you can't make use of the answers for scumhunting/townhunting purposes.

Your next post though confuses me, where you attack Walter for only interacting with me. You think you have found two scum in me and Walter?

They're reads that work independently (although obviously, they fit together with each other quite neatly). On day 1, reading players based on their interactions necessarily has to take a lot of possibilities into account; without flips, there's rarely enough information to be able to make use of associative tells. (It's still worth recording them, though, so that when people look back over the thread after a few players have flipped they have the information to understand what they mean.)

[callforjudgement]

I think Frog is probably town

also moving my vote somewhere more useful
VOTE: Walter

There's no wagon on callforjudgement anymore while there is on Walter. Plus I can barely read judgements posts so I need to go back through later

Based on this reasoning, why didn't you move your vote back onto me?

[ItalianoVD]

Taylor Swift??

[ItalianoVD]

Too bad you’re scum.

[RCEnigma]

Tayl0r Swift replaces sordros

Big fan.

[WaltertheDunce10]

hmm
I am not sure about it being hard to imagine, but I think for you the possibility of nos being town is far fetched. from 488.
Not sure I agree that sarcasm is weak.
Frog, Could you elaborate on why you think there are 4 scum?
Agreed with gerain on italiano's post on frog.
K, Gerain, you are saying it is how you play D1s.
497 seems towny, but then there seems to be a self-counscious statement with 'Have I explained myself well enough."
At least that is how I see it.
Weird though we get a scum then a fan post and before that Nm with a vote on a person who just replaced in.

[Frogsterking]

Charmander just shot up to FoS #2 for his terrible defense of Nosferatu. Arguably it makes him even scummier than Nosferatu.

ItalianoVD
callforjudgement

Gamma Emerald
BananaCucho
SJReaver

Not_Mafia
geraintm
Raya36
Frogsterking

Nosferatu

RCEnigma
sordros

WaltertheDunce10

also
VOTE: geraintm
it's not strong but the thing I called out earlier is the first thing in a while that's actively pinged me

If these are actually town reads then this list is terrible as well.

I’ll be sure to take your words into consideration, Mr. Thinks A Single Prodge Means Active Lurking

Sarcasm..

A weak-minded tool to control weak-minded people

The fool sits upon his tower of false gold, looking down on those he believe to be beneath him, when it is he who is the lowest, having bought a sham.

Touche.

[Frogsterking]

hmm
I am not sure about it being hard to imagine, but I think for you the possibility of nos being town is far fetched. from 488.
Not sure I agree that sarcasm is weak.

Frog, Could you elaborate on why you think there are 4 scum?

Agreed with gerain on italiano's post on frog.
K, Gerain, you are saying it is how you play D1s.
497 seems towny, but then there seems to be a self-counscious statement with 'Have I explained myself well enough."
At least that is how I see it.
Weird though we get a scum then a fan post and before that Nm with a vote on a person who just replaced in.

(added bold)

I feel like no one looks very townie and from what little I know about the range this setup could be there are probably three or four scum. If the setup is balanced so that there are four scum against extra prs for town that could explain the general lack of towniness.

[GeorgeBailey]

SJReaver has been prodded!

[Raya36]

@mod v/la until tomorrow night

[Tayl0r Swift]

216 (reaver) hmmm... is this another obvious fake? this post is off
235 (frog) might be a wild take but its probably a good one and townie
257 (walter) this is a bad and obvious sheep vote. VOTE: walter
263 (reaver) is a post to come back to after some flips
272 (reaver) not an impressive readlist
315 (reaver) happy to oblige. youre a scumread.

overall walter and reaver are top scumreads.
gamma is probably town.
made it to the top of 15.

[Gamma Emerald]

overall walter and reaver are top scumreads.

yikes

[Tayl0r Swift]

i'm also not saying that you should be always anti town as town but it behooves you to do so in the first couple of days so you can actually play the game lmfao

isnt this only true if the other townies are playing scummy? if every townie is obvtown, the game gets pretty easy.

[Tayl0r Swift]

367 (cfj) i dont see this coming from town. why would town want to read someone as town? you only want to read townies as town, so wanting to read someone as town comes off as scum knowing someone is town but seeing their posts as scummy, or maybe SvS

[callforjudgement]

367 (cfj) i dont see this coming from town. why would town want to read someone as town? you only want to read townies as town, so wanting to read someone as town comes off as scum knowing someone is town but seeing their posts as scummy, or maybe SvS

When your heart says town, but your brain says scum.

Normally my heart is right in this situation, and it really annoys me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

whoops did not mean to hit submit there. sometimes im a bit premature.

407 (nos) uh calling you scum is scummy? by self voting as town arent you necessarily playing against wincon?
413 (gamma) in what world is a self-vote not scummy?
436 (banana) hmm odd timing depending on flips this could be an attempt at a counterwagon?

VOTE: cfj

[Gamma Emerald]

whoops did not mean to hit submit there. sometimes im a bit premature.

407 (nos) uh calling you scum is scummy? by self voting as town arent you necessarily playing against wincon?
413 (gamma) in what world is a self-vote not scummy?
436 (banana) hmm odd timing depending on flips this could be an attempt at a counterwagon?

VOTE: cfj

scummy (or to better express what self-voting actually is, anti-town) doesn't mean scum

[RCEnigma]

Weird though we get a scum then a fan post and before that Nm with a vote on a person who just replaced in

What does this even mean?

[RCEnigma]

hmm
I am not sure about it being hard to imagine, but I think for you the possibility of nos being town is far fetched. from 488.
Not sure I agree that sarcasm is weak.

Frog, Could you elaborate on why you think there are 4 scum?

Agreed with gerain on italiano's post on frog.
K, Gerain, you are saying it is how you play D1s.
497 seems towny, but then there seems to be a self-counscious statement with 'Have I explained myself well enough."
At least that is how I see it.
Weird though we get a scum then a fan post and before that Nm with a vote on a person who just replaced in.

(added bold)

I feel like no one looks very townie and from what little I know about the range this setup could be there are probably three or four scum. If the setup is balanced so that there are four scum against extra prs for town that could explain the general lack of towniness.

I would have preferred this not be explained. But +1.