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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 1223, notscience wrote:I think I would.

I really need to stop being so susceptible to AtE, ugh
Another very townie post.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:49 pm

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Bulge is going to yell at me when he comes in.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 1219, Bell wrote:Yeah, I never quite got why you never bothered to get into this one.
Replacements shouldn't really affect your motivation if your goal is to win and not look good while winning.
It’s not that it affects my motivation directly - it makes it a lot harder for anyone to maintain consistent reads. If you believe you have identified Scum for example, and then another player comes into the slot and screws up your view, then it’s much harder to sort the game out properly. Take Nash for example. I had Nash consistently as Lean Scum, but then plusJOYED seems a lot less Scummy to me (probably because they are defending me in a position where it’s beneficial for Scum to yeet me).
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:50 pm

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I would say that Bell/notscience and The Bulge/Bellaphant are the potential Scum Teams. shellyc is always Town. And I don’t know what to make of plusJOYED, probably Town I guess.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:52 pm

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Since we have a day prior to the day ending from the moment we get a replacement for Bellaphant, at least give me some time to re-read the game and give you some more definitive ideas as to what I think.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:52 pm

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That way if you think I should be flipped, then you know where I stand.
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:52 pm

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You realize I’m pushing the wagon off you and on to bulge, right?
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 1229, Andresvmb wrote:Since we have a day prior to the day ending from the moment we get a replacement for Bellaphant, at least give me some time to re-read the game and give you some more definitive ideas as to what I think.
Sure. Try to keep things concrete.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 1231, notscience wrote:You realize I’m pushing the wagon off you and on to bulge, right?
Bell is sheeping you quite hard. If The Bulge flips Scum, then the game is solved because you/Bell are most likely Town and you probably have a small POE of what Me/Bella or something?
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:57 pm

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Mhm.

I hope someone I’m comfortable with replaces in to chitchat with.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:30 pm

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:/

notty we have very different understandings of the term Intent
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:26 pm

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Ooh a lot of posts have been made since I last checked in. Let me make a comprehensive review then I'll respond to everything.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 1228, Andresvmb wrote:I would say that Bell/notscience and The Bulge/Bellaphant are the potential Scum Teams. shellyc is always Town. And I don’t know what to make of plusJOYED, probably Town I guess.
I agree that Bell has been sheeping NS - Bell pivoted towards the Bulge when NS suspected them. Bell seems townie to me though. Is NS trying to pocket Bell?

The Bulge has been defending Bella and I'm not sure scum!Bulge would do that when many players have sussed the Bella slot.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:29 pm

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In post 1225, Bell wrote:Another very townie post.
Why is 1223 a townie post? It's just stating that they need to be less prone to AtE. Scum can definitely say that
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:31 pm

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1221-1224 would signal towards a partnership if NS or Bell flipped red. Hmmmm.

Still want to flip Bella but I'm waiting for the replacement.

Andres claiming VT here gives towncred but Andres has been very inconsistent and paranoia-spreading (idk how to put it) this day. Gives me a weird vibe.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 1238, shellyc wrote:
In post 1225, Bell wrote:Another very townie post.
Why is 1223 a townie post? It's just stating that they need to be less prone to AtE. Scum can definitely say that
NS doesn't really have a reason to be moving the wagon like this as scum. it's just not done really. He's backing up his hesitation with action. He's not just saying a thing, he's doing a thing.
He can at maximum, have 1 partner. But the wagon has shifted twice and he started the wagon on bellephant.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:59 pm

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In post 1240, Bell wrote:NS doesn't really have a reason to be moving the wagon like this as scum. it's just not done really. He's backing up his hesitation with action. He's not just saying a thing, he's doing a thing.
He can at maximum, have 1 partner. But the wagon has shifted twice and he started the wagon on bellephant.
He can be partnered with you really. NS / me or NS / PlusJoy looks viable. He might have started the wagon on bella (his partner) then switched once she was in danger of being hammered

I still have a town vibe from NS but im skeptical at how you decide to give people townpasses
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:25 am

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once again, notscience tries to look pro town, but their actions have all been targeting rather obvious VT's imo

though like andres said, with so many inactives/replacements I'm almost hesitant to kill someone that is actively keeping up with the game, this is getting kind of ridiculous. Are all mafia games like this?

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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:40 am

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Sometimes, once you complete this game you can join a bunch of games, so when is slow or there’s a night phase you can go play another. Just try to pace yourself and know your limits
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:37 pm

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IIoA? You decide to disregard my read on you at 1241... I CANNOT READ BELL. I see the townie mindset, but is this LAMIST from scum?
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:41 pm

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I was just speechless because you included yourself in there so I ignored it.
I think you and Andre have enough experience to know that NS/Bell is just really unlikely since this is the first time we’ve played together.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:44 pm

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Also, lamist is a terrible abbreviation with a terrible connotation. If they appear very town, chances are, they are town.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 1245, Bell wrote:I was just speechless because you included yourself in there so I ignored it.
I think you and Andre have enough experience to know that NS/Bell is just really unlikely since this is the first time we’ve played together.
First time playing together doesn't mean you can't be partnered.

I included myself cause it was a possibility from your point of view (but not from mine, as I know I am town).
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:46 pm

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LAMIST = working hard to appear town / towntell without a focus on scumhunting. I regard the meaning of LAMIST as this.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:49 pm

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Sorry, I implied that the way we’re playing together is extremely rare for scum partners if you look at how we’re interacting with each other.

I see. What town tells am I dropping?
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