Newbie 2023 - Hedgehogs - Day 3

[the worst]

Why are you trying to posit we should trust a dead persons reads? Is joyed like an Andre whisperer or something?

i'm not sure if andres thinks this is a silver bullet dude. i get the impression this is hyperbolically asking bulge why he hasn't flinched at his scumread on andres for like, a long ass time.

take for example
- plusjoyed locktownread andres (not very important)
- bulge apparently partner read plusjoyed/andres (now debunked, should probably prompt reconsideration of whether they were partnery or just independently scum)
- i have spoken about why i think andres is town; bulge doesn't seem to think andres/i read partnery, but doesn't seem interested in engaging on my incorrect read or trying to sort me in more depth off it

it doesn't... feel like something bulge strongly believes and wants to determine why other people don't believe and/or whether it's correct? it's just an opinion he's doubling down on?

[the worst]

@shelly when did you realise bell was the tpr?

When they flipped. I'm trash at picking up PR hints.

why did you have the slot so hard townread?

[notscience]

Wait who was saying worst slot and Andre don’t make sense as a team?

Bella picked the iv wagon over the Andre wagon d1

[the worst]

i try to *ignore* tpr hints and it hit me in the face like a hammer

pedit: me o/

[the worst]

thoughts on our d2 conduct if we're a scumteam please notty? if we can clear this, the game gets a lot easier

[notscience]

Bulge I could give a fuck about your Andre read I need you to walk me through your read on worst slot throughout the game. As detailed as possible please.

Pedit

I need to revisit that still I’m just saying you are trying really hard to push an angle you guys can’t be scum together and it’s bothering the fuck out of me

[shellyc]

Shelly talk to me.

I feel like Andre is mimicking my play yesterday that people were townreading and it’s irking me

Mmm

Hi NS we can talk

[shellyc]

why did you have the slot so hard townread?

Because I believed the slot was a townie, they had an uber town mindset.

They questioned both replacements right away and gave decent reads.

[the worst]

interesting, I thought you were circling around him for the same reason I was. felt real twinness for a hot second.

I'll circle back to you a bit later this phase if it's ok; I think I'm gonna get more out of talking about you than talking to you this ealry

[shellyc]

I'll circle back to you a bit later this phase if it's ok; I think I'm gonna get more out of talking about you than talking to you this ealry

Cool beans. Btw why did you ask other players to search Bulge in my ISO? If you're doing partner analysis, why Bulge in particular?

[shellyc]

I'm still scumleaning on Bulge. the worst / bulge scumteam still seems feasible here

[the worst]

I'll circle back to you a bit later this phase if it's ok; I think I'm gonna get more out of talking about you than talking to you this ealry

Cool beans. Btw why did you ask other players to search Bulge in my ISO? If you're doing partner analysis, why Bulge in particular?

that's the bit I'm gonna get more out of talking to Andres about than talking to you about rn but I also have some questions for you but I don't wanna give Andres a head start D:

[notscience]

Shelly my gut is screaming to the high heavens that something’s up between worst and Andre.

Both of them just feel weird today.

I don’t even Know how to feel about bulge anymore because my guts not screaming he’s town but he’s not dumb and knows I am leaning his way so why would he have me alive?

Pedit
I dunno the way worst keeps pushing they can’t be a team with Andre is sketchy

[the worst]

I'm still scumleaning on Bulge. the worst / bulge scumteam still seems feasible here

the biggest road block in my soul is the SE interactions in this game. for a core of players who enjoy playing with each other a whole bunch and seem to know each other very well there was v v little urgency around them sorting each other or like, co-solving

I don't think it necessarily suits the styles of any of notty/bulge/bella to block the fuck up and smash the game together but there's a weirdly high partner/pocket equity in out trio

[the worst]

Shelly my gut is screaming to the high heavens that something’s up between worst and Andre.

Both of them just feel weird today.

I don’t even Know how to feel about bulge anymore because my guts not screaming he’s town but he’s not dumb and knows I am leaning his way so why would he have me alive?

Pedit
I dunno the way worst keeps pushing they can’t be a team with Andre is sketchy

I still think it's a bit sketchy you have no opinion on us as a team except for that Bella chose another wagon over Andres at some point on D1; there's an entire rich interaction between Andres and I which I can actually offer insight into from D2 which you don't seem all that interested in?

I'm also surprised you don't seem remotely worried about being a pocket here?

[shellyc]

Shelly my gut is screaming to the high heavens that something’s up between worst and Andre.

Both of them just feel weird today.

I don’t even Know how to feel about bulge anymore because my guts not screaming he’s town but he’s not dumb and knows I am leaning his way so why would he have me alive?

Andre was very slimy to me d2. Maybe because of the profile pic lol. I am feeling town on the worst for attempting to gamesolve but they are obviously competent

[the worst]

to be pretty candid: I think I've been quite towny. I think Andres has been townier than I have (and if I'm savagely honest has a more narrow scumrange than I do). I think we are quite a weak team solve. If you're town I'm not sure how you're bypassing your onus to actually have reads on slots and coming to the conclusion that we're scum together.

unless you're pocketed/confbiasing which I guess I can't force you to come around on but you're clearly seeing in tunnel vision so whatever

[shellyc]

Current lynch order:
The Bulge
Andres
the worst
NS

pedit Andres / the worst is a solve I have in mind but am not leaning towards. You literally pointed out Andres' weak scumrange and caused plusjoy to vote for Andres

[the worst]

I've never felt fuzzier feelings than when I saw Andres' trajectory late D1. His absence D2 was definitely notgr8 but he didn't feel like...overtly scummy to me I suppose

[the worst]

Current lynch order:
The Bulge
Andres
the worst
NS

pedit Andres / the worst is a solve I have in mind but am not leaning towards. You literally pointed out Andres' weak scumrange and caused plusjoy to vote for Andres

I'll circle back to this after I torment Andres for a bit. :3

[shellyc]

I've never felt fuzzier feelings than when I saw Andres' trajectory late D1. His absence D2 was definitely notgr8 but he didn't feel like...overtly scummy to me I suppose

Is this an SR or TR on andres

pedit go circle andres

[the worst]

I townread Andres. I'd be really really interested in seeing a case for scum!andres.

[shellyc]

I townread Andres. I'd be really really interested in seeing a case for scum!andres.

Looks like The Bulge is trying to make that case, which further contributes to me SRing them

[the worst]

sec. finding coffee.

[the worst]

I AM COMPLETE AGAIN
I thought about engaging with you more meaningfully but
I think talking to Andres probably does more for my solve rn

If he doesn't get to my super fun exercise over like the next day or two there's a lot of stuff in what you're posting which is settling off little fireworks in my brain

I'm actually just tempted to talk about Things at length now but fbdfcbxhnxjxjcjcjcj