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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 1620, Isis wrote:Farren can you please carry me
Hand me a nice clean ELo situation and I'm your man, if you don't stab me in the face. Or give me a clear, definite dichotomy to work with.

Right now, I'm still thinking Ydrasse ... but given that MT passed the check I gave her, I have to consider her arguments for you.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:16 pm

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I say we get rid of guilty or Ydrasse, with that information, I will at least be 100% sure one of my reads is wrong if they end up flipping town. Kind of obvious, but there it is.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:20 pm

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Isis: what were your thoughts when GuiltyLion voted for tea leaves today?

Why didn't you vote for tea leaves at that point?
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:23 pm

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So weird when the entire game collectively agrees on two people being the scummiest, but it doesn't really seem like they could be with each other, and then literally NO ONE really stands out as being the odd one out in our group

So then inevitably it causes me to wonder if I've got everything wrong. But it just feels wrong to call Bell/tea scum, and Farren has a lot of moments I like. Isis isn't supposed to be scum though either so wtf?

Clearly I should just go over my reasons for townreading every person and find the weakest one, the one that turns out i never really had any concrete reasoning for so it got lost within the others. This has worked for me okay in the past

but that is so much effort. I don't even know if 1 arso in GL/Ydrasse is correct. But it has to be, right?

It seems to me we're dealing with GL/Isis, GL/Farren, or maybe Ydrasse/Isis as the team. I think the only way one of those teams is incorrect is if I'm being duped by tea or Bell but I can't really mess with that. I don't know what new light could be shone on me that reveals to me one of those two isn't town

I just.. is it really GL/Isis? Is as simple as my tea/Bell/Farren reads (and sort of the Ydrasse meta) being correct? Probably not
In post 1626, Bell wrote:I say we get rid of guilty or Ydrasse, with that information, I will at least be 100% sure one of my reads is wrong if they end up flipping town. Kind of obvious, but there it is.
im already to the point where I'm like 95% one of the townreads is wrong. But also I don't really see flipping outside of GL/Ydrasse, **probably**
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:29 pm

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I was interested in it but "@Farren: I wanna see where your reads are at and if you're willing to vote here" was like super creepy to me and made me want to wait and see what he was doing.

I later forgot the slot had votes at all, but that post is still creepy?
It seemed like not something that's wrong to ever post in a vacuum but like a misfit puzzle piece as a follow up to how day 1 went
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:43 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:51 pm

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VOTE: Tea leaf
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:28 pm

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That vote shouldn't count. That's like voting Morning Tweet with VOTE: Claw
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:46 pm

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Thinking about associations is making my head hurt. I think Guilty's sporadic posting is quite scum-indicative for him. Like, he has little interest for this game but forces himself to post in bursts every so often.

Ydrasse, could you explain why you put Guilty on L-1 so early?
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:44 am

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that was where i wanted to vote + realistically it wasn’t gonna get hammered
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:57 am

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I'm happy with my vote right now.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:04 am

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GuiltyLion has been prodded.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm

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*crickets chirping*
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:38 pm

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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:42 pm

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hey y'all, sorry for the prod, this has been a really hectic work week + since Crusader Kings 3 came out that sucked up what little precious free time I've had left

I haven't read outside of this page and I don't plan to tonight as I'm super tired, but I finally don't have any meetings for work tomorrow so I should be able to catch up and play then. it sounds like we're stalling on dueling GL/Ydrasse wagons, which makes sense. I'll try to see if anything has radically changed for me when I read through tomorrow
In post 1633, tea leaves wrote:Thinking about associations is making my head hurt. I think Guilty's sporadic posting is quite scum-indicative for him. Like, he has little interest for this game but forces himself to post in bursts every so often.
this is actually usually scum-indicative for me honestly, but my activity is down site wide if you check. you're absolutely right I've had little interest in this game so far this D2 but it's not cause I'm scum
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:45 pm

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has nobody come in with a "here's why both wagons are wrong"/"this is scum jumping on [x] wagon" sort of take? I'd expect to see at least one of those if it's TvT
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 1641, GuiltyLion wrote:has nobody come in with a "here's why both wagons are wrong"/"this is scum jumping on [x] wagon" sort of take? I'd expect to see at least one of those if it's TvT
I dont think so

the closest might be my big post calling Isis' reads on the wagoned players / who she wants to kill inconsistent

But I do believe one wagoned player is scum. If you're both town, there's two scum in tea/Bell/Farren/Isis which is a total bummer
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:53 pm

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Not really? MT has asked Isis some pointed questions concerning her reads; Isis moved onto tea leaves afterwards. Lots of ambivalence in general, myself included - I don't recall anyone making a serious TvT case between you and Ydrasse.

PEdit> More or less what MT said, minus the obvious.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:54 pm

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Isis feels disorganized alright but i dont think that makes her scum -- I don't think she'd be as obvious as to be bussing her partner, see Dunn come in and say "I townread GL", and then be like "Oh well I guess it's not GL then" and swap off him.

Originally her answer to my question of who she'd eliminate after a green Ydrasse flip made me extremely worried-- I interpreted it as her saying she would eliminate me 100% after town Ydrasse, but now I think I just didnt word the question well enough
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:04 pm

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In post 1643, Farren wrote:I don't recall anyone making a serious TvT case between you and Ydrasse.
hah I mean when you put it that way it sounds ridiculous doesn't it
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