FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

[Servant Alter Ego]

ffs I'm terrible with pronouns. I'm sorry, Gentlebeings.

[Servant Assassin]

wonder what the last-minute counterwagon attempt on caster means, hrrm

[Servant Assassin]

probably good for caster tbh

[Servant Avenger]

I thought it was because it broke that most sacred of trusts. You don't interfere with other players when they're hunting. If rider has partners I don't think he would have an easy time writing about them so I wanted to try for that.

@Saber, the idea that town are more confident about who is and isn't scum is...a novel take. You could argue there's positioning. And your take here is consistent with voting caster as he is a hedge wizard. But I just don't agree with that. Yeah I figured it was for emphasis.

@Assassin no idea. I assume the devil you don't know (as opposed to the devil you do) is in effect here.

[Servant Alter Ego]

I thought it was because it broke that most sacred of trusts. You don't interfere with other players when they're hunting. If rider has partners I don't think he would have an easy time writing about them so I wanted to try for that.

I can see that as your motivation for 802. But that's not how I read 804, especially in the moment. It felt like a post moon caster pile-on, which is why I snarked at it.

I'm admittedly protective of townreads. Unless they transform into not-townreads. And I feel like there's been enough suspicion on Rider that some folks are jumping on the hype train. This is not a sense I can document yet (mostly because I'm working through other stuff about the game rn and I want to complete that while I have some passion about it). Don't ask me who I think is train-jumping. When/if I have data to back up my gut, I'll share it. And if the data doesn't back up my gut I'll share that as well.

[Servant Avenger]

You can protect him when he's actually at risk next day phase?

@Rider, I apologize if I'm coming off as a dick to you. I don't mean to.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

There's like 4 people explicitly saying they think Rider is scum or at least not a town read lol

The rest have either called Rider a town read or not commented on Rider's alignment

It just so happens that two of those people are among the loudest (Avenger, Assassin) and one of those people is the coolest and most awesomest (me).

[Servant Avenger]

@Berserker why do you think Alterego is mafia?

[Servant Moon Cancer]

(That last line in #856 is just to help you understand why you may have the false impression that there's "been enough suspicion" of Rider when it's actually a relatively small group of people.)

[Servant Alter Ego]

What are your reads, currently?

I townread you and assassin. I scumread moon cancer and shielder. I do not have much of an opinion on anyone else.

this is interesting because i scumread archer and assassin and to some extent moon cancer, so one scum in each bucket of a scums reads? hmm

i feel like caster is scum. i also think that foreigner is scummy for driving paranoia in townies.

Did any of your earlier scumreads change? change in intensity? How would you rank your scumreads?

[Servant Alter Ego]

There's like 4 people explicitly saying they think Rider is scum or at least not a town read lol

The rest have either called Rider a town read or not commented on Rider's alignment

It just so happens that two of those people are among the loudest (Avenger, Assassin) and one of those people is the coolest and most awesomest (me).

Your read weighs most heavily on my mind fwiw. I really want to drop what I'm doing and chase after this, but what I'm working on is turning out to be pretty helpful to me and I'd love to have it fairly complete before we enter the next phase.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

*shrug*

If you're looking for something in the game thread about how my read developed, I feel like you're going to be disappointed.

Much like the direction of, say, my Assassin read, you're probably just going to have to attempt to read between the lines for now until I feel like giving more explanation.

[Servant Shielder]

You up for a Caster compromise, Berserker?

if caster or assassin flip scum (as i think they both will), remember this post from rider.

[Servant Shielder]

this sequence is interesting. shading a good post by berserker, then as an afterthought adding some attempt at LAMIST that makes no sense from an actual town mindset. if youre town why would you think scum would want you mastered? or who would the scum on that wagon be?

[Servant Shielder]

I think she is just a shitty person ... They are using attacks against me as a person ... and that sort of bothers me.

this isnt AI i just thought the irony was quite funny

[Servant Shielder]

i would be worried berserker was trying to dismantle consensus if i wasn't fairly sure her early play made her town

I concur.

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I'm in the middle of an extremely nitpicky note-taking reread of this game, and when I finish that, I'm going to try to do some progression analysis wrt to votes.

I hope to complete both before we're into day 1 proper.

yeah this exactly. and assassin making this post suggests that assassin is indeed town. but the people assassin is blocing with are very scummy so i guess assassin just got in with a bad crowd? i still wont be voting assassin today. but in a way assassin being town makes things simpler because there is one too many scum i feel like. one confused townie in the mix makes things make sense suddenly.

[Servant Shielder]

Fuck it, let's go.

VOTE: Caster

Money where your mouth is, Caster lovers.

yes scum outing and pushing a scum wagon. love to see it. remember, this game is swingy based on day 1/0/whatever this is, so scum will probably push hard near deadline to get a scum voted master.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Any time you write something, Shielder, it just looks so disconnected from the game that I can't really figure out what you're trying to achieve if you're town.

[Servant Shielder]

Any time you write something, Shielder, it just looks so disconnected from the game that I can't really figure out what you're trying to achieve if you're town.

thanks!

[Cabd]

Vote Count M-12

Caster (5): Saber, Lancer, Caster, Ruler, Rider
Assassin (4): Archer, Foreigner, Moon Cancer, Alter Ego
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast, Assassin
Saber (1): Shielder

Phase Page Count: 35/60

With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)

[Servant Shielder]

What are your reads, currently?

I townread you and assassin. I scumread moon cancer and shielder. I do not have much of an opinion on anyone else.

this is interesting because i scumread archer and assassin and to some extent moon cancer, so one scum in each bucket of a scums reads? hmm

i feel like caster is scum. i also think that foreigner is scummy for driving paranoia in townies.

Did any of your earlier scumreads change? change in intensity? How would you rank your scumreads?

archer has faded as topscum a bit, but mostly because archer has gone inactive. interesting that the pressure on archer disappeared at the same time archer did though. hmm
ruler is a bit strange but not really in the scumbucket. not yet anyway.
assassin is scummy but as i said, has some good townposts, so might just be in with a bad crowd.
caster, rider, foreigner, and maybe lancer? are my current bets for the scum team. foreigner i go back and forth on though. its really only rider and caster that im confident in.

[Servant Avenger]

Shielder, what's your read on me? Sorry If I missed it.

[Servant Alter Ego]

*shrug*

If you're looking for something in the game thread about how my read developed, I feel like you're going to be disappointed.

Much like the direction of, say, my Assassin read, you're probably just going to have to attempt to read between the lines for now until I feel like giving more explanation.

I know your read progressions aren't in the thread. Sometimes I see a few words between the lines, but I don't expect to be able reverse engineer your reads with so little to go on. What I can do is look at the basis of MY reads and make sure I haven't missed something.

With your Assassin read change, I'm thinking "I got there first!"

[Servant Moon Cancer]

archer has faded as topscum a bit, but mostly because archer has gone inactive. interesting that the pressure on archer disappeared at the same time archer did though. hmm

This whole line makes my head hurt.

[Servant Alter Ego]

this sequence is interesting. shading a good post by berserker, then as an afterthought adding some attempt at LAMIST that makes no sense from an actual town mindset. if youre town why would you think scum would want you mastered? or who would the scum on that wagon be?

Who are you talking about in the first sentence? And who are you talking about in the second one?