Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[Isis]

Farren I'm disappointed in you

Morning Tweet why don't you scumread me

[Isis]

i didn't mean to quote that

[Isis]

SECRET TECHNIQUE

[Isis]

Pandora is hurting me

[tea leaves]

Only playfully though, right

[Isis]

Unofficial Tally:

Ydrasse - 4 (Farren, tea leaves, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion)
GuiltyLion - 2 (Bell, Ydrasse)

Not Voting - Dunnstral, Isis

5 to eliminate.

why was Bell the final vote on Ydrasse

[Isis]

Only playfully though, right

Pandora doesn't seem to understand object permanence and will never claw my bare skin but will ruthlessly slash opaque sheets I am beneath or sweatpants I am beneath

[Isis]

she brought me her toy again that takes her focus

[Isis]

i'm town in every other game in which I am alive

[Isis]

This is the only game in which I am alive

[Isis]

i was kinda lurky this game because I spent all my energy going hard bamboozling Dannflor in another micro which is over now

i say kinda lurky but i think my activity and energy was within the bounds of acceptable

but kinda lurky for me

[tea leaves]

Okay, so this is why I think Morning could be scum. She loves her positioning as scum. Here, she lists strong townreads on Isis and I. She even trusts Isis enough to lower me a little in the first posts (although she positions me back up top for the later readlist). This is fine and all - these are her individual reads.

we're going to eliminate tea leaves, aren't we. and then they're gonna flip scum. SMH

Actually let me order where i'd place my vote

Dunn
>>
Farren/Bell/Gamma -- with a good scum case
>
tea leaves (cuz i trust Isis and we're never getting past this)
>
Ydrasse
>
GuiltyLion
>
Isis

I'm gonna pretend i didn't see that alt slip cause they really had me going that they were a different person this time :C

AGAIN i feel like Ydrasse would be more conscious of how we're viewing her if she's scum. That hop on to the Dunn wagon without giving any detailed analysis as to why she agrees with the Dunn wagon versus other wagons? strange to me considering her scum game

I think if I abolish her meta from my mind, then yes Ydrasse is probably lean scum because she's mostly floating about the place sorta.

also, fwiw regarding morning tweet i remember having a scumread before on her in a previous game because of the way that she approaches things and sort of flits about, offers the townreads that she does, etc; it seemed strange and threw me down a rabbit hole. i don't think that she's acting any different than in the game we played together though and she was town in that one, so.

sometimes i feel like im playing my own game where I locktown as many people as possible for sometimes outlandish reasons, i try to convey it to the thread unsuccessfully, and then it's a coin toss whether I'm right or wrong anyway. Well i don't know, I don't *usually* locktown scum

The townreads I'd be upset about being wrong about at this point (they're probably high-to-medium strength):

Isis (Mena)
-
tea leaves (clidd)
Ydrasse
GuiltyLion

maybe something like that

And about the nonconfrontational thing, that's just me as a person seeping in -- I feel like I'm playing poorly when I get accused of being scum as town, so i have a mental block on doing it to other people if i'm not confident on it actually being true

The scummy thing is how she sets ups her reads to change based on who flips. Like, here:

I'm playing around with the idea that I have way too many townreads because there really is only one scum inside of Bell/tea/Farren/Isis/Guilty, and I'm only avoiding voting Ydrasse because of a false metatell

If Ydrasse is scum here, that probably clears GL/Farren. I still do not think it's Bell. Could Ydrasse be paired with one of tea/Isis perhaps? Isis didn't really have game-related interactions with Ydrasse, just tons of fluffy ones, and tea placed Ydrasse quite high on their readslist initially, dropped her down after a while, but still kept GL/Dunn/Gamma lower and also definitely considered Farren D1.

today Isis joined the Guilty wagon but left quickly after the first sign of it potentially dying came (Dunn townreading GL),

and tea did it even earlier (after Ydrasse naked voted GL). Not super surprising potential behaviour from a partner there

Am I missing anything that could disprove Ydrasse/Isis or Ydrasse/tea?

I don't think a Ydrasse!scum flip should launch her top two townreads into her top two scumreads, I don't believe that's a genuine thought process, and some bussing/non-bussing suggestions should affect her reads so greatly.

Also, regarding the highlighted in orange: She says I voted Ydrasse "even earlier" like this is a suggestion that it's stronger evidence that I'm bussing, when infact it should it be the opposite.

[tea leaves]

i was kinda lurky this game because I spent all my energy going hard bamboozling Dannflor in another micro which is over now

i say kinda lurky but i think my activity and energy was within the bounds of acceptable

but kinda lurky for me

Ah, the classic anti-elitell. You love to see it

[Isis]

3 people can die today+tonight but the 4p isn't eLo cause there's no NK.

So 3 cchops left?

This setup seems b roken fir town

[Isis]

my activity isn't always alignment indicative, but when it is, I'm on vacation in NYC and I'm spending the time that I do have for the game to share tourist pictures instead of solve

[tea leaves]

3 people can die today+tonight but the 4p isn't eLo cause there's no NK.

So 3 cchops left?

This setup seems b roken fir town

yeah, I don't think firefighter is really needed.

[Isis]

i have
a medical appointment now

when i come back I want another redwagon to blindsheep for more free elo

[Isis]

DON'T :CLAP: PUT :CLAP: POWER :CLAP: ROLES :CLAP: IN :CLAP: YOUR :CLAP: OPEN :CLAP: SETUPS :CLAP:

[tea leaves]

Okay, I will build some walls for your return

[Farren]

Assuming 100% scum success rate - avoiding the firefighter, not dousing anyone that later gets eliminated -

Start of D1: 7 town, 2 scum
Start of D2: 6 town (1 doused), 2 scum, 1 stump
Start of D3: 6 town (2 doused), 1 scum, 1 stump

Working worst-case scenario from here ...

D4: 5 town (3 doused), 1 scum, 2 stump

Mis-elim here means 4 town (3 doused), 1 scum during N4. Scum ignites and wins.

We can definitely afford one mis-elimination. Past that, it will depend on how good Dunnstral is at outguessing scum and how good scum is at dousing people that aren't getting eliminated.

[tea leaves]

VOTE: Guilty

hahah i got a spot on the wagon

This vote is also super strange. It comes after Ydrasse did that scummy L-1 vote on Hobbes, and we all discuss how scummy that is and momentum starts to shift back to Ydrasse from Hobbes. Queue Morning coming in putting Hobbes right back on L-1.

[Farren]

Farren why are you even scumreading me

Because my picture of you right now involves a high amount of fluff, especially with Ydrasse.

Because you stayed off the wagon that eliminated Ydrasse, and tried to talk her into self-hammering - which means less info for Town, more people off the wagon.

Because all that talk about me in the scum PT is starting to sound like projection.

[tea leaves]

To try and articulate while it feels "super strange" is because Morning words it like the wagon is a given that will go through today, when this clearly isn't the case and Ydrasse and Hobbes were both on 3 votes.

[tea leaves]

*why it feels

[tea leaves]

VOTE: Morning