Open 794 Pick Your Power X/Y (finished)

[Umlaut]

Only read the last couple pages but
VOTE: Gypyx (L-1)
You claim scum, you get what you're asking for.

[Green Crayons]

I'm pretty surprised by the number of people taking an obvious shenanigan at face value.

punish all perjurers

ditch all deceivers

[Green Crayons]

While I'm sure someone will pipe up with a OH YEAH WHAT ABOUT THIS SITUATION?!

But town should never lie and if you lie, especially on something this incredibly dumb when pressure starts to build on you, I'm going to yeet you into the sun.

[Datisi]

im scum

no haha its only joke xD

[Something_Smart]

congrats, you lied to the town and I will forever want to eliminate you because there's no reason to think that you aren't scum who pulled this to try to look like crafty town

There's the small detail that it doesn't look crafty in the slightest.

[Something_Smart]

punish all perjurers

ditch all deceivers

I'm quite philosophically opposed to stuff like this. I'd rather kill the person with the highest chance of being scum than the person with the highest chance of being bad, and town lies are fairly common (and not necessarily bad!).

Certainly, occasionally dumb townies offer noticeably bad reactions. And occasionally dumb scum do as well; the question is, which is more likely in the particular scenario. I don't think that 999 could have been intended as a real scumclaim; taken at face value, he'd be claiming scum while under the impression he was not hammered and asking people to unvote, which is nonsensical. So it must have been a poorly considered joke/reaction test.

[Grumpy Cat]

I'm town

haha joke I'm actually grumpy

[Grumpy Cat]

Gypyx looks so scummy at first glance but I'm gonna read what S_S was saying because he says rational stuff sometimes

[Green Crayons]

punish all perjurers

ditch all deceivers

I'm quite philosophically opposed to stuff like this. I'd rather kill the person with the highest chance of being scum than the person with the highest chance of being bad, and town lies are fairly common (and not necessarily bad!).

Certainly, occasionally dumb townies offer noticeably bad reactions. And occasionally dumb scum do as well; the question is, which is more likely in the particular scenario. I don't think that 999 could have been intended as a real scumclaim; taken at face value, he'd be claiming scum while under the impression he was not hammered and asking people to unvote, which is nonsensical. So it must have been a poorly considered joke/reaction test.

This is you saying he was trying to be crafty

[Grumpy Cat]

Well, exe-2, i think that's enough screwing around

yeah this was a fake reaction once again, logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

Where's your crumb for the fake reaction this time? You had one for the first one

[Green Crayons]

You want me to NOT take his claim at face value but not go so deeply that it was scum pretending to be town pretending to be scum.

[Something_Smart]

I don't think "doing as scum what you would do as town, even if that's a weird gambit reaction test" is crafty per se, it's kind of the easiest way to play scum. But also-- you said that it was an attempt to LOOK like crafty town, but if he's town, then it doesn't look crafty, it just looks stupid.

[Green Crayons]

He obviously thinks it’s crafty, regardless of alignment.

[Green Crayons]

It just looks crafty because it’s stupid as hell, regardless of alignment.

[Something_Smart]

Didn't he describe it as "screwing around"? It wasn't a masterfully planned reaction test to trap scum.

[Green Crayons]

Well, exe-2, i think that's enough screwing around

yeah this was a fake reaction once again, logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

Thought he was doing something useful


Not a troll

[Something_Smart]

We're splitting hairs at this point.

What I meant in 1054 was, if he was trying to look like he was being pro-town with this gambit, he did a really bad job of it, which would have been towny if he'd been aware of it. But I think I do accept your conclusion that he THOUGHT it looked pro-town.

[Grumpy Cat]

He did that fake reaction to the hammer earlier which people thought was kinda towny. Maybe he was hoping for more of the same.

[Gypyx]

Just to be clear, my main intent was to pull off something kinda original with the gambit

[Gypyx]

Well, exe-2, i think that's enough screwing around

yeah this was a fake reaction once again, logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

Where's your crumb for the fake reaction this time? You had one for the first one

I worded the post in a way that shows i know i'm not lynched while saying in the next post i thought i was lynched

[Grumpy Cat]

Why you been struggling to form reads this game, Gypyx? You're usually very forthcoming and proactive with them (I'm Non Compos Mentis/renaissance if you remember me).

[Green Crayons]

What I meant in 1054 was, if he was trying to look like he was being pro-town with this gambit, he did a really bad job of it, which would have been towny if he'd been aware of it. But I think I do accept your conclusion that he THOUGHT it looked pro-town.

So we basically agree on both of these points.

[Green Crayons]

Just to be clear, my main intent was to pull off something kinda original with the gambit

be less nebulous and more specific

[Gypyx]

Why you been struggling to form reads this game, Gypyx? You're usually very forthcoming and proactive with them (I'm Non Compos Mentis/renaissance if you remember me).

Well that what i'd like to know too, i think that's a mix of bad irl circumstances and me strugguling to get myself into the game

[Grumpy Cat]

Do scumread anyone currently?