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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:36 pm

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Bell solve the game
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:38 pm

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Morning Tweet you are really fun and one of my favorite players.

i'm just drunkposting perpendicular to wincon i might get voted for pocketing
remember the first game we played
where i convinced you to mark heaven
using reasons
and arguments
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and friendship
it was so great
such good times
good times were had
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:39 pm

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i still don't know why bell is town

i think farren and bell are like similar slots and i feel much more convinced farren is town
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:41 pm

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In post 707, Bell wrote:Case: To put it as simply as possible. Ydrasse is self-narrating, watching and waiting, pocketing Isis in a way that is confusing because Isis should know he's being pocketed.
And a bunch of other minor things.
this is just looks like a tmi scumread to me
i guess if bell is town he will be mad at me for misestimating his understanding of the game

but the last clause doesn't link up to alignments at alllllllllllllllllll

i never liked it but it's worse when ydrasse is scum
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:45 pm

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I think it's Hobbes but if not, probably Bell.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:46 pm

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In post 2076, Isis wrote:Morning Tweet you are really fun and one of my favorite players.

i'm just drunkposting perpendicular to wincon i might get voted for pocketing
remember the first game we played
where i convinced you to mark heaven
using reasons
and arguments
and persuasion
and friendship
it was so great
such good times
good times were had
;')

I think that game is a big part of what got me hooked on playing mafia this year.

i just found it so funny and absurd that someone who has no idea who i am was willing to go to such lengths to get my vote for something that was honestly not very important even in the scheme of that game

so ty for that it was really cool and fun
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:48 pm

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Tea do like, a tiny lil self meta case

Like when Bell said "I would never go out of my way to give my scum partner a hard time upon entering the game where they're not even under any pressure. I'm just not that kind of player"

im a sucker for that kind of defence despite it burning me at least once or twice
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:49 pm

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In post 1452, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: guiltylion

ty for the well wishes today guys <3
Let's talk about this vote again.

It puts Hobbes on L-1 and Ydrasse hasn't posted content in a while. It looks very opportunistic and scummy.
As scum, this is pretty unideal for Ydrasse.

BUT, if Hobbes is also scum. Then scum!Ydrasse is in the mindset of "oh one of us is getting launched today anyway, who cares" or could be thinking "how could they think I'm scummy for this vote? It's on scum."
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:50 pm

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In post 2075, Morning Tweet wrote:Bell solve the game
No.
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:51 pm

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In post 2079, tea leaves wrote:I think it's Hobbes but if not, probably Bell.
i'm just gonna be hardpocketed here
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 pm

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In post 2081, Morning Tweet wrote:Tea do like, a tiny lil self meta case

Like when Bell said "I would never go out of my way to give my scum partner a hard time upon entering the game where they're not even under any pressure. I'm just not that kind of player"

im a sucker for that kind of defence despite it burning me at least once or twice
It won’t burn you this time. But yeah, I can be a sucker for them too.

@tealeaves, why GL>Bell? And not GL >IS >Mt > You > farren.
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 pm

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But self-meta is so valuable for you two read me in future games. Maybe my philosophy should be to play every mafia game like it's the last though?

Biggest indicator I want to give you is that as scum I feel the need to be relatively consistent and have quite unchanging reads. My progressions are gradual and you can see how stuff is changing, albeit very gradually. You can see this in Your Nightmare, or my Replacement for Sujimichi game off the top of my head.

Here I have multiple sharp turns in reads and progressions all over the place.
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 pm

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*to
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:56 pm

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Examples being thinking Farren was scum to the then placing him as top 1 or 2 townread. Also, thinking Ydrasse town to placing her as bottom scumread. Thinking you were scum and now thinking you're probably my first or second highest townread.

My read on Bell has moved a little less, but I was townreading Bell a lot more early on, but it might have been a consequence of him defending me while a lot of people thought I was scum.

Isis and GuiltyLion are mostly unchanged.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:59 pm

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In post 2085, Bell wrote:@tealeaves, why GL>Bell? And not GL >IS >Mt > You > farren.
Why am I in this list lol

I get some pings from you in the way you were reading me as town. You mentioned earlier that you would probably never be voting me this game, but then clarified that to mean you might vote me if it ever came to LyLo - however, that's tomorrow if we mislaunch today.
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:59 pm

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That depends on who's primed but I doubt town!Hobbes would be.
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm

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In post 2082, tea leaves wrote:
In post 1452, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: guiltylion

ty for the well wishes today guys <3
Let's talk about this vote again.

It puts Hobbes on L-1 and Ydrasse hasn't posted content in a while. It looks very opportunistic and scummy.
As scum, this is pretty unideal for Ydrasse.

BUT, if Hobbes is also scum. Then scum!Ydrasse is in the mindset of "oh one of us is getting launched today anyway, who cares" or could be thinking "how could they think I'm scummy for this vote? It's on scum."
This reasoning isn’t within my wheel house. I’m not sure how likely that is versus L1 vote.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:01 pm

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In post 2089, tea leaves wrote:
In post 2085, Bell wrote:@tealeaves, why GL>Bell? And not GL >IS >Mt > You > farren.
Why am I in this list lol

I get some pings from you in the way you were reading me as town. You mentioned earlier that you would probably never be voting me this game, but then clarified that to mean you might vote me if it ever came to LyLo - however, that's tomorrow if we mislaunch today.
I’m town so I go down the elimination list.
You should self vote if it comes down to between me and you. Because our arsonist would never light someone on fire, right?
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:04 pm

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Play :clap: every :clap: mafia :clap: game :clap: like :clap: it's :clap: your :clap: last :clap:
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:05 pm

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Arsonists are actually really nice people and I'm quite sad that we've resorted to hunting them down in this fashion. It's freezing cold out there at night. They need logs and a campfire, all they want is some warmth! We're monsters.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:06 pm

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I didn't get your answer, Bell, so I had to talk about my love for Arsonists instead.
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:08 pm

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A tragedy, this game may end with the arsonist also dying in a fire.

That was my reads list and solve by the way.
GT > IS > MT > tea > farren in terms of likelihood.

You’re welcome MT.
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:10 pm

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Is it elo if dunstral protects someone yesterday or tonight?
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:11 pm

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i probably wouldn't post this if i wasn't drunk
but glork literally played a mafia game as his last, with terminal cancer, and decide from the start he wouldn't join any after
idk if he won or lost but also he didn't know if he won or lost
it makes me want to devote all the more effort to playing every mafia game like it's my last, that he literally played a mafia game knowing it was his last
i really really think mafia with a full track record of looking back and people admitting to their own patterns is still a beautiful, beautiful game. i stil thinnk it is in some ways the best game i've ever played
please play every game like your last
there's only one maybe two sentient species if the dolphans are playing mafia and not translating for us
it's such a cool game
i will try to shut up
and alt tab into my singleplayer gaem

pedit x3: i guess being in Bell's top2 should make me as upset as being in his top 1 in terms of win perent but tuilty being top makes me p happy so ikd
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:13 pm

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im really glad i made morning tweet want to play more mafia

i didn't know her super well in permanent marker i only knew she probably llliked cute mammals
and i like bats too when i was in gradeschool i read silverwign
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