Mini Theme 2162: Wherewolf [Game over | Village win]

[Glitch]

Glitch - what makes 159 and 160 anti-town and why is that wolfy as opposed to not just...anti-town??

I don't see the difference. Your lazy attitude toward game mechanics is very off when we're playing a game where the best hunting to be done is through game mechanics. Sheeping. Lazy. Not interested in doing the work of a townie. That's scum indicative to me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@T-Swift: Please don't make me second guess my TR on you. bard claim + No CC + morning announcement = Elements is confirmed Bard.

im not after elements as scum. im after elements for hardclaiming.

ill vote glitch

[Glitch]

I'd join assigning slots for Elements as slot 1 and any of the following for slot 2 - Italiano, Gal, insomnia, Fuzzy

I'll veto Elements from that list on the basis he can be confirmed by tomorrow.

If I could avoid placing Inso/Fuzzy on the ballot too I would. If I'm not I'm not too misguided, I'd say it's between WLC/Galron & YOU (Glitch).

My suspicion of Glitch stems from 177 in which he states this:

But with not all roles in the game, and as far as I understood with no reveal upon death, it might be better to wait at first to get some more nights of information.

This is not pro-village. There is no motivation at all for town to try and keep WWs behind the curtain of the C/NC. C/NC is a great way to pressure them and out them without having to reveal

any

town PRs except the corrupt ones, which need to be outed anyway. Advocating not to reveal that information is anti-town. Scum points.

But doesn't follow up. never mentions WLC again, and doesn't include him on the ballot candidacy!

He also is fence-sitting the read on Galron on that same post. Galron has now probably blown his cover, so that is why Glitch decided to include him on his lost of candidates on the ballot, but we know both "main" Wolf team members know the others; including the Defector, so they probably won't vote him off.

I am calling for the Town now to put Glitch and WLC on the ballot, as I am confident enough that's the correct solve. We need to collectively make sure to not vote outside these two, so if the Wolf team all vote someone else we still have one of them at least.

Note that Wolves do NOT have daytalk, so it's gonna be a shot in the dark for them to collectively vote the same person. Add to that the Jester. I am willing to strike a bargain with Italiano here: Join us.. making it possible for us to go 4 on Glitch and 4 on WLC, thus guarateeing both are on the ballot. 6-2-1 tomorrow and we do Galron, thus 5-1-1 on D3, at which point we can eliminate Italiano and have it at 3-1-0 on D4.

P.S. This is your best option, Italiano. Scum won't shoot you because they want to hunt down the TPRs. If you don't accept, then we can still try to eliminate WLC/Glitch is succession to win the game without you.

Please announce your decision ASAP.

@Town: Now who is nomibating WLC and who is nominating Glitch?

You are my top TR right now so I put a lot of weight into your reads. I'm willing to roll with Galron on ballot and wouldn't oppose WLC but WLC literally just doesn't have enough content yet to sort him. He's got four posts, only one after my catchup post. While he scored some scum points off the bat, the lineup of others with more scumpoints is still greater. ISO WLC and see how little there is to go on.

Re: Elements proving themselves tomorrow --> This is an interesting take. If someone else is going to CC bard we need them to come out ASAP. If not then I am willing to wait on Elements another day. My primary focus would then shift to Italiano because I don't really believe the whole jester gambit. Releasing a ballot on elements I would prefer Italiano and insomnia, but I would compromise and move my vote to either of them or Galron too.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I think the highest wolf make the kill...which doesn't really matter bc we dont have a tracker
I dont like Ele claim as it makes the cop easier to find however , I am tending to believe him. We dont have a cc and there is no reason not to cc as we have the inn keeper and the cop . Bard is a secondary important role IMHO given theInnkeeper is in play. I do not think the Innkeeper of the cop should crumb and give the ww a clue to their ID..but they are free to do what they want.

I think the cop should investigate Italian. If he does ping corrupt then we lynch him if not then he prob the jester and we can make a better decision what we do with him tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I think the highest wolf make the kill...which doesn't really matter bc we dont have a tracker
I dont like Ele claim as it makes the cop easier to find however , I am tending to believe him. We dont have a cc and there is no reason not to cc as we have the inn keeper and the cop . Bard is a secondary important role IMHO given theInnkeeper is in play. I do not think the Innkeeper of the cop should crumb and give the ww a clue to their ID..but they are free to do what they want.

I think the cop should investigate Italian. If he does ping corrupt then we lynch him if not then he prob the jester and we can make a better decision what we do with him tomorrow.

i kinda feel like its a waste to investigate italiano. on the other hand, we do need to sort that slot for sure, and early investigations are less likely to hit scum, so i guess if we are gonna do it better now than later. like the odds of actual scum there are pretty low.

[Galron]

I'm sticking with Italiano. I doubt we have a defector if we have a jester, and Italiano is acting all kinds of jester.

[Galron]

Elements should be off limits today.

[Galron]

But I'm not completely caught up, and we're about out of time, so if I need to vote elsewhere, that's fine.

[CreativeMod1]

Day 1: Ballot

DK Replaces Elements

On The Ballot:

• ItalianoVD
• Galron

You may use this link when you wish to vote | Make sure you use your Player Number from your Role PM

Spoiler: Alive

• Almost50
• brighteningskies
• DK
• Galron
• Glitch
• insomnia
• ItalianoVD
• Pine
• Tayl0r Swift
• TheFuzzylogic99
• WeyounsLastClone

Spoiler: V/LA

Please message me if you have any V/LA coming up during the game and I'll put it here

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The current deadline is:

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(expired on 2020-09-15 19:00:00)

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Timezone	Time
PDT	4:00 PM, Tue 15 Sep
EDT	7:00 PM, Tue 15 Sep
BST	12:00 AM, Wed 16 Sep

[Almost50]

OK.. let's do this:

1- Put WLC + Glitch on the ballot
2- Eliminate WLC of the two
3- Clairvoyant checks Italiano

Also remember: IF the bard is dead there will be no announcement if the Clairvoyant checked a NON-CORRUPT. However, if the Clairvoyant dies, the announcement of C/NC still is public.

Glitch: Tayl0r Swift
WLC: Almost50

I urge everyone to confirm which they submitted (and urge everyone to submit one of these two precisely, so we can tell if someone lied about their vote)

brighteningskies
Elements
Galron
Glitch (replaces spicer1209)
insomnia*
ItalianoVD
Pine*
TheFuzzylogic99
WeyounsLastClone

[Almost50]

WHAT?? Are we in phase 2 already??

[Almost50]

Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)

[brighteningskies]

It's not confirmed there's a bard in the game (whereas there is a confirmation of an innkeeper being in) so Elements could theoretically be corrupt still but I still wouldn't have voted him if I'd seen his claim in time to change my vote before deadline, but thankfully he's not on the ballot.

Had a sleepy thought: Italino could be a wolf pretending to be Jester-like, but either way I'm not sure who to vote out of who is on the ballot just yet. Will think on this more in the morning.

[Pine]

Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)

Yup, Galron.

I do like your Glitch analysis though.

Hi DK! It’s a shame you’re probably scum here.

[Galron]

Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)

Because you think I'm the traitor or because IVD may be the jester?

[Galron]

We can make this phase real short.

[Almost50]

Galron it is then (that's whom I'm voting and I won't reconsider)

Because you think I'm the traitor or because IVD may be the jester?

Both

[Almost50]

We can make this phase real short.

How?

[ItalianoVD]

On The Ballot:

• ItalianoVD
• Galron

[Tayl0r Swift]

so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates, which we didnt.

[ItalianoVD]

so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates,

which we didnt.

And you would know this...how?

[ItalianoVD]

We can make this phase real short.

How?

Ummm...

[Tayl0r Swift]

so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates,

which we didnt.

And you would know this...how?

well because the only way for town to coordinate is to do it in thread. we were trying to coordinate to ballot two people who didnt make it onto the ballot. it seems apparent that our attempt to coordinate failed.

[Tayl0r Swift]

We can make this phase real short.

How?

Ummm...

have you considered our offer to work with town for a few days and then get killed?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I balloted Garon bc he seem like he is the defector and with little info it seem like the best choice. I am prob wrong...my first few days usually dont have good reads