FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

[Cabd]

Vote Count D1-2 (First Elimination)

Archer (4): Beast, Caster, Foreigner, Archer


With 14 players alive, it will take 8 votes to eliminate a player.

Phase Page Usage: 13/60

Day one will end in: (expired on 2020-09-18 22:00:00)

[Servant Avenger]

@Archer, care to claim?

[Servant Avenger]

VOTE: Archer

Yeah, claim please.

[Servant Foreigner]

This game is weird because I have 2 alt guesses, but both of them are players that I don't think play on site right now.
Does anyone know if Cabd sent out invites for this game?

[Servant Moon Cancer]

This game has at least a few people from Cabd's Cohort though I don't believe he sent out personal invites

[Servant Alter Ego]

I think I'm going to need a day to compose myself.

This seems a little exaggerated, so it makes me a little less happy about Alter Ego. Maybe the feeling was happiness, but that doesn't require a day to get composed.

It was a half-joke. I was so relieved to see the rest of the flavor and flip that it canceled out my being pissed at our Benevolent Mod for putting us through that.

If you're right, then where do you think defenses have been mounted?

What do you mean by defenses?

I meant scum subtly protecting each other by pushing a town player, distancing, diverting, etc., from parts of the discussions they wouldn't want us dwelling on. I'm not reliable at spotting that kind of stuff without a scum flip (more often jump at a townie who's just in the wrong place at the wrong time), but some people are. And I feel like Moon Cancer can think on that level what with the book they're writing in their PT. But, that's not where they were going with the post I responded to.

I am a little confused why people seem to think Shielder and I were scum. I can't really comment on what the situation is like if we are both scum, but if we are both town, then scum would probably be feeling good about themselves entering D1. That makes me think the quick changing wagons were more town driven unless scum are master planners and already chose and pocketed their candidate.

Definitely something to think about when we figure out what world we inhabit.

My sudden realization was that Avenger's overenthusiasm for getting voted Master made sense as a townie effort to scare mafia into thinking he had a particularly useful upgrade (on top of already being threateningly loud). My hope was that he would actually get it and flip town and we'd have the opportunity to go back and look at who townread Avenger but found excuses to not vote for him, as I imagine that would be a prime mafia approach to handling him. This possibility (combined with the general opportunity to decisively sort him) was worth the risk he might be mafia himself, so I pulled the trigger. Then it ended up not working out anyway.

My eyes sorta glazed over this the first few times, but the motivation behind voting Avenger seems townie. I do agree that mafia would take a backseat to him unless they were strong.

I like that you picked this post to comment on. It's on my list of posts to keep thinking about.

It seems at least a little more likely that Archer would be arguing (my impression: without much depth) for town Assassin, knowing the read was correct than risk getting into a match with Berserker over a read that could be wrong.

I don't get this. I also don't tend to explain my reads much, but just act upon them.

I was noting that your arguments for town Assassin didn't have any depth.

Archer isn't one of them.

well I'm town...

:/

[Servant Archer]

ok...
I have this one shot ability that allows me to gain the skill name of the action that most recently targeted me. I have an ability that prevents roleblocks on someone. I also have this one shot that lets me respawn if I'm killed that night, but I get hated status until LYLO.
My NP blocks all negative non killing effects for the night, and if I get a master, I can tell how many abilities were blocked that night and the role(?). I can also distribute powers, but it seems like it can't be chained.

[Servant Avenger]

Okay.
Could you define what a negative effect is.

[Servant Avenger]

Do we want a full, full claim in this situation, name, attributes etc?
@Foreigner.

[Servant Foreigner]

I see no reason to not do the above.

[Servant Assassin]

This game is weird because I have 2 alt guesses, but both of them are players that I don't think play on site right now.
Does anyone know if Cabd sent out invites for this game?

I was not expecting to have any guesses, but there is one player this game whose posting style is distinctive enough that I put a name to it.

Do we want a full, full claim in this situation, name, attributes etc?
@Foreigner.

I will be honest here: there is nothing Archer could claim at this point in time that would change my mind. I also think name and attributes are likely to be null, we were given our servant selection in pregame, before the roles and alignment were generated, so it's not like scum would need to fakeclaim.


Once again, if I have erred here, I am terribly sorry. Archer has had the sword of damocles hanging over their head for days now, and I have helped straightforwardly railroad them early into this day phase without a chance for a proper defense. This must suck, regardless of their alignment this game. Having just typed out an entire solve in my notes that is dependent on this flip, I will look like a complete dunce after the game ends if it immediately falls apart here. But if I'm wrong it means I need a slap in the face and a drastic reassessment of my entire view of the game.

VOTE: Archer

[Servant Avenger]

Is it messed up that I thought Cabd had like a role card for every servant

[Servant Beast]

Is it messed up that I thought Cabd had like a role card for every servant

What do you mean? Like the ones not even in the game?

[Servant Avenger]

Yeah.

[Servant Avenger]

I thought all the heroes had personalized skill sets etc.

[Servant Alter Ego]

Is it messed up that I thought Cabd had like a role card for every servant

I kinda doubt this is the case.

[Servant Alter Ego]

This game is weird because I have 2 alt guesses, but both of them are players that I don't think play on site right now.
Does anyone know if Cabd sent out invites for this game?

I was not expecting to have any guesses, but there is one player this game whose posting style is distinctive enough that I put a name to it.

Do we want a full, full claim in this situation, name, attributes etc?
@Foreigner.

I will be honest here: there is nothing Archer could claim at this point in time that would change my mind. I also think name and attributes are likely to be null, we were given our servant selection in pregame, before the roles and alignment were generated, so it's not like scum would need to fakeclaim.


Once again, if I have erred here, I am terribly sorry. Archer has had the sword of damocles hanging over their head for days now, and I have helped straightforwardly railroad them early into this day phase without a chance for a proper defense. This must suck, regardless of their alignment this game. Having just typed out an entire solve in my notes that is dependent on this flip, I will look like a complete dunce after the game ends if it immediately falls apart here. But if I'm wrong it means I need a slap in the face and a drastic reassessment of my entire view of the game.

VOTE: Archer

Are you ready for Day 1 Part 1 to end? If you've got more stuff you want to do before moving on to Double Day Part 2, I'll hold off.

[Servant Beast]

Since there isn't a recent vote count and I feel lazy, can one of my servants get me a vote tally on Archer? We done with this phase yet?

[Servant Avenger]

Just hammer him.
He full claimed and nobody is stopping anybody from eliminating him.

[Servant Beast]

I'm already on the wagon but I want to see if I should stick around tonight and watch for the flip

[Servant Saber]

My gut says this is too easy. If Archer was town, I would expect some level of whiteknighting. So why isn't it here? If Archer was scum, I would expect some level of diffusion. Neither is happening. So, I am left with solve by post count?

[Servant Archer]

What is diffusion?

[Servant Assassin]

Are you ready for Day 1 Part 1 to end? If you've got more stuff you want to do before moving on to Double Day Part 2, I'll hold off.

I cannot think of anything more that would be accomplished by prolonging this day phase. You have my full permission to hammer.

[Servant Alter Ego]

UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
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Archer (6): Beast, Caster, Foreigner, Archer, Avenger, Assassin

8 to Eliminate

[Servant Archer]

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