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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:14 pm

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to interactions between Ydrasse/Bell are pretty natural. That said, these are scum-indivative I think because it's a little strange for Bell to narrate about Ydrasse like this while talking to her, like there's intent to give a certain impression to others who will read this interaction.
In post 1028, Bell wrote:I'm just confused what town or scum Ydrasse gains out of a vote RN.
In post 1038, Bell wrote:A better player would be able to put together the pieces here and make a decision on Ydrasse's alignment from this interaction. :(
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In post 1075, Ydrasse wrote:will you take care of my stump, bell? make sure it's pretty? ghosts can't take care of their stumps.
This is scummy no matter which color she flips. :cry:
In post 1090, Bell wrote:^^ Sometimes when people say this, it's just scum tho.
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:17 pm

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Actually I do that as town and can bring up a game where I did just that.
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 1117, Bell wrote:I understand now why Lion is guilty.
In post 1175, Dannflor wrote:
VOTECOUNT 1.7

[3] Ydrasse :
Bell, GuiltyLion, Gamma Emerald
[2] tea leaves :
Farren, Isis
[1] Gamma Emerald :
Dunnstral
[1] Dunnstral :
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[1] GuiltyLion :
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[1] Not Voting :
Morning Tweet

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to exile.

The Day 1 deadline is in: (expired on 2020-08-28 01:03:10)
In post 1176, Ydrasse wrote:ugh

VOTE: tea leaves
In post 1187, Bell wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Here it is. This is baffling to me, Bell. Gamma was always null to you before this point, while Ydrasse was an incredibly confident scumread. Why in the world did you switch from Ydrasse when she was the leading wagon? actually kinda looks like you're setting up to pivot from Ydrasse to Hobbes, but then don't get the chance because no one else bites on that wagon.
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 2226, Bell wrote:Actually I do that as town and can bring up a game where I did just that.
Sure! That'd be helpful.
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:22 pm

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I’m on my phone. Can we skip to the part where I wouldn’t lie about something easily verifiable.
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:24 pm

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In post 1257, Bell wrote:Besides Ydrasse I think she did stick up for you.
It seemed kind of negative toward her win condition. For her, one of the reasons I switched my vote to you was because she was cutting herself off from a wagon that she didn't need to cut herself off from as scum.
Then again maybe it was a soft defense and she just recognized the game state better. *Thinks*
I don't get this. She voted the next competing wagon which was me putting me to 3 votes. How was that cutting herself off from a wagon and towny in any way?
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:24 pm

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In post 2229, Bell wrote:I’m on my phone. Can we skip to the part where I wouldn’t lie about something easily verifiable.
Yeah, fine, that bit's not really important anyway. I'm more interested in the Ydrasse stuff.
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:26 pm

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My confidence is feigned. This is also easily verifiable, I rarely truly stop my reads from fluctuating.

The guiltylion comment was related to Pokémon chat.
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:27 pm

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In post 1259, Bell wrote:There was telegraphed interest in your wagon when Ydrasse defended you as aimless town.
If Tea Leaves wagon didn't work out, she seemed the next on the chopping block. At least in my view. So not saying "Maybe, Gamma could be scum!" as a second viable wagon would be against her win condition.
This is a really roundabout way to call her town... like, she voted her biggest counterwagon and called someone who
might
be wagoned instead town, so that's towny? That's just regular scum play, Bello, voting your counterwagon out of survivalism and calling someone else town.
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:27 pm

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I was talking about gamma in that post.
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:29 pm

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I know, but Ydrasse calling Gamma town while voting her biggest counterwagon (which is the main thing) isn't towny.
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:29 pm

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The reasoning is in the post where I put out that if tealeaves wagon fell apart, she would be fucked.
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:31 pm

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Are you really genuine with this case. :?
A lot of these posts were addressed. You’re looking at me from a very narrow POV.
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:31 pm

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VOTE: Bell
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 2236, Bell wrote:The reasoning is in the post where I put out that if tealeaves wagon fell apart, she would be fucked.
I get that's what you're saying, but that's
if
it falls apart. The most important thing for scum!Ydrasse to do there is to vote the next biggest wagon (me). There's many, many reasons scum!Ydrasse could be calling Gamma town there. Maybe she's just fabricating what she thinks is a reasonable read, maybe she's trying to get Gamma off her wagon etc. It looks to me like you exaggerated the significance of that to better justify calling Ydrasse town there.

Was there any other reason you opted to vote for Gamma (a prior stated nullread) over Ydrasse (someone you'd given many reasons for being scum)?
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:33 pm

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@isis: are you mafia.
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:37 pm

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The other reason was that I thought he might be lost scum. Also, ngl it was because my read on ydrasse had weakened because she seemed really friendly and I was not immune from her appeal to fear.
Later on in that interaction, I think about changing my vote back to ydrasse or moving. Elsewhere.
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:40 pm

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In post 1196, Bell wrote:I waffled.
That's pretty much the reason.
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:41 pm

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I'm sorry, but I think you're scum <3
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:42 pm

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I’m sorry, but you’re wrong. :]
And ignoring all the data and making a one sided case on the matter demonstrates that.
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:42 pm

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In post 2242, Bell wrote:
In post 1196, Bell wrote:I waffled.
That's pretty much the reason.
What's pretty much the reason?
Being friendly doesn't reflect on alignment.
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:43 pm

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What's the data?
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:43 pm

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I already explained a million times why ydrasse partner play is impossible for me.
The fact you think i’m scum with her is basically crap.
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:45 pm

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I don’t know what to say to that when there’s data that liars irl, tend to be relatively negative in their speech patterns which makes it hard to sound friendly.
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 1701, Bell wrote:Seriously though, please don't partner me with Ydrasse, it's insulting. If I was scum this game, I would never have been able to pull that off with Ydrasse scum.
At least partner me with someone that makes sense.
Like tealeaves. :shifty:
Yeaaah, about this... I don't get why you'd be "insulted" that you were partnered with Ydrasse if you don't think scum!you is good enough to pull that off. Isn't that a compliment rather than an insult?
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