Mini Theme 2162: Wherewolf [Game over | Village win]

[Tayl0r Swift]

It's probably one of the people on the ballot holding this up.

@Mod: Is that how the rules were designed? Because you'd like...never have the day end except with deadline that way

considering they dont get to vote i doubt it

[Pine]

Dont know..... Pine seems too eager to end the day.

I think I might change my vote and roll my chances with Italian. The logic behind this if he is the jester we get rid of him early and take our chances with losing a day elimantion
I need more time to think this through however.

Too eager? Our choices are between a Jester and a probably Wolf.

I'm

baffled

by what there is to talk about.

[ItalianoVD]

Dont know..... Pine seems too eager to end the day.

I think I might change my vote and roll my chances with Italian. The logic behind this if he is the jester we get rid of him early and take our chances with losing a day elimantion
I need more time to think this through however.

Sure, we believe you.

I’m surprised this day isn’t over myself. The talk was to get to it so we can role reveal and get clairvoyant results, etc. but looks like it’s more talk that means nothing. Who’s actually running this village?

[CreativeMod1]

It's probably one of the people on the ballot holding this up.

@Mod: Is that how the rules were designed? Because you'd like...never have the day end except with deadline that way

Not sure exact question here but I'll answer what I believe is being asked

Usually in the IRL game there'd be a discussion and once everyone is happy with the end of the discussion we go into the vote. With this to save time I'm allowing everyone to send in votes when they like (and likewise change votes) but I must allow for discussion time hence the deadline... However, there's no need to drag on the phase if everyone has voted and nobody plans on changing their vote hence the question asking if you wish to go to the next phase
Players on the ballot must also agree to want to go to the next phase if they have decided that they don't want to add to their defence

I think that's what your asking, please lemme know if you'd like me to clarify further

[Pine]

Thanks for asking the question I probably meant rather than what I actually asked

I’m even more convinced now that scum is on the ballot, and one of their buddies is holding it up.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Thanks for asking the question I probably meant rather than what I actually asked

I’m even more convinced now that scum is on the ballot, and one of their buddies is holding it up.

why? delaying wont change things will it?

[Pine]

Delaying gives them a chance to change people’s minds, what planet are you from?

[Pine]

Apologies, that was rudely said, but convincing people is the

point

here. When we went to ballot the majority was convinced Italiano was Jester, so the only reason for delay would be to convince people to either not target Galron or to begin targeting Italiano (semantic difference, yes, but different motivations.) If Galron were Town, the scumteam wouldn’t be holding up the ballot.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Dont know..... Pine seems too eager to end the day.

I think I might change my vote and roll my chances with Italian. The logic behind this if he is the jester we get rid of him early and take our chances with losing a day elimantion
I need more time to think this through however.

this is the only post ive seen where someone thought about changing off of italiano. and i scumread that post pretty hard.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Apologies, that was rudely said, but convincing people is the

point

here. When we went to ballot the majority was convinced Italiano was Jester, so the only reason for delay would be to convince people to either not target Galron or to begin targeting Italiano (semantic difference, yes, but different motivations.) If Galron were Town, the scumteam wouldn’t be holding up the ballot.

or the scumteam are holding up the ballot to try and make us think galron is scum so we off the jester and they get two kills. reminder: we either gamble on galron or give scum two kills.

[insomnia]

It probably has been talked about at this point, but consider it a prodge

Do we have night actions that confirm Italiano as Jester?

[brighteningskies]

It probably has been talked about at this point, but consider it a prodge

Do we have night actions that confirm Italiano as Jester?

The only one that could really semi-confirm (as in confirm him as non-corrupt) is the clairvoyant and we were previously discussing that the clairvoyant should check someone else instead of Italiano (since we've spent a lot of time on him already, we can always come back to him later) and that maybe it should be Glitch.

[insomnia]

In that case I'd like to place my vote on him and tip the scales.

I don't believe Italiano would be that brazen as a jester, I have placed him on the ballot, Galron's placement there actually feels like the scum's choice. I still don't really understand how he's been placed on the ballot in the first place.

If people that placed him on the ballot would come out with why they think Galrno's scum, I may reconsider. After all, there isn't much of a scum argument for Galron so much as there is a jester argument for Italiano, so Galron should be the "default".

I don't feel comfortable running with Italiano later on in the game. By choosing to act like this, it's unlikely that his play style will change and if he's a wolf (which I've argued for), then all he has to do is make random votes and he contributes to the voting block of wolves and easily skate on pro-wolf play just because "he's jester".

[insomnia]

It's possible I may have missed the claims, so I'll preface the question by saying that.

Why has nobody (or very few) people claimed who they balloted?

[Tayl0r Swift]

italiano is either jester or scum. do you think italiano would be that brazen as scum?

[insomnia]

If people think he's a jester then I don't see why he as a scum wouldn't try to act that way.

I do think he's scum but can't be sure. I'm moreso trying to unravel the things said in thread.

It's either I'm very disconnected or there are shady stuff happening.

1) Who ever said they'd be balloting Galron?

2) If scum pushed Italiano, the "jester" on the ballot, then town did place Galron, but not a single person argued for Galron being scum before he was placed on the ballot. Does that look like a town-driven ballot to anyone? Why?

[insomnia]

If you are town and you balloted Galron, then just claim it. You're letting people drive narratives off potential scum Italiano by not revealing your ballots.

[insomnia]

Dont know..... Pine seems too eager to end the day.

I think I might change my vote and roll my chances with Italian. The logic behind this if he is the jester we get rid of him early and take our chances with losing a day elimantion
I need more time to think this through however.

Too eager? Our choices are between a Jester and a probably Wolf.

I'm

baffled

by what there is to talk about.

Why's Galron a wolf? Just because "wolves balloted Italiano"?

[insomnia]

The only argument on Galron wolf I've seen was A50 claiming he's Defector or something.

[Pine]

I balloted Galron. ISO me.

[insomnia]

I mean, the Galron thing is kind of a shot in the dark thing if you ask me.

If we yeet the jester then that's unfortunate but scum equity wise he was and is more scummy than Galron imo.

[insomnia]

I don't have a scum read on Galron, ignoring any mechanics.

Feeling like "I'll vote for a jester" and "Who would you want, a town or a jester to be alive?" PoV is actually more townie. It doesn't sound like a very good defence against not getting yourself killed if you're scum.

As a scum I feel like he'd just scum case Italiano and push further away from the fact that he's jester instead of fuelling that belief.

[Pine]

Galron has been scummy from the start. If you don’t agree, feel free to vote for the Jester.

[brighteningskies]

I still think Italiano is a Jester but yes at the moment it doesn't much matter since everyone voting is the only thing that will truly get us some information.
Unless there is anything left to discuss (which I don't personally feel there is otherwise we wouldn't be going in circles) we should move to the next stage.

[insomnia]

A50

- do you find Galron townie outside of the Defector theory?

Also, do you think you could read Pine well? What's he this game?