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Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:11 pm

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Town won that game, which would increase the possibility of Bell seeking to evolve his scumgame.

That Martyr action that killed Bell. There was a corruption mechanism where players died if they reached certain thresholds of corruption. The Martyr action basically dropped a player's corruption to zero at the cost of the user's life. Except that scum actually worked in reverse, and died if they hit 0 corruption.

The martyr mentions that if they were aiming for *Town* they'd target Bell. And then they target Bell. So that wasn't really a standard Vig kill where you're scummy and you get caught - that was more along the line of Bell being too townie. Which makes me think Bell would be *less* likely to evolve his scumgame ... it was working pretty nicely last time, but a fluke of the mechanics got him.
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Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:15 pm

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I don’t really seek to evolve my scum game. When I play scum the important thing for me is that people have a good time. I don’t particularly enjoy playing scum because the problems that need to be solved aren’t what attracted me to mafia. If people were *dissatisfied* with my play I might attempt to.
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Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 2619, Bell wrote:
In post 2614, Morning Tweet wrote:Bell you bussed both of your partners simultaneously in SIN

.-.
Already stated I wasn’t bus averse.

You’re the second person to ignore this. .-.
well no but like, it was extremely early on you started the bus on pork which i suppose is more significant
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Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:16 pm

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I think tea leaves rolled scum this game
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:17 pm

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In post 2628, Isis wrote:I think tea leaves rolled scum this game
oh really NOW
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Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:18 pm

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It was day 2 I think. Though out the gate.
And I showed a reluctance to bus pork day one.

I forgot to mention my second scum game ended. I asked mena what he thought my partner and when mena made a case I just brushed it aside and redirected him.
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Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:19 pm

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I too share the sentiment that Pine/Ydrasse were unlikely to talk about bussing pregame
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Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:20 pm

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2616 seems kind of inductive
I don't like that he's more confident about this than I am
confidently stating an element of his personality is really unsettling from Bell. I feel like there are sturdy ways to scumread his play for its independent aspects but like ignoring him saying "I don't cruelly bus partners if I don't have private communication" it can be correct to power through but how can it ever feel good to power through?
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:21 pm

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I disagree that Ydrasse would be unlikely to put a comment about bussing in the scum PT. It wouldn't matter whether Pine responded.

I might have to flip my avatar back I'm not sure I can stand it.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:26 pm

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I mean, i’m right here and I can confirm no such communication took place because she didn’t roll scum this game. :yawn:
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Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:27 pm

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Ydrasse didn't roll scum this game?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:28 pm

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Bad logic: we're all having fun; Bell thinks people having fun is a top priority when he's scum; ergo, Bell is scum.
More bad logic: Bell was townread to death in a previous scumgame; he can be townread here; ergo, Bell is scum.

UNVOTE: Bell

My ego can't take GuiltyLion being scum. Do I really need to go back and take another look at him?
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Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:28 pm

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Pine didn’t.
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Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:29 pm

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Pine is a boy
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:30 pm

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Oh.
The female rabbit avatar confused me.
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Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:32 pm

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In post 2636, Farren wrote:Bad logic: we're all having fun; Bell thinks people having fun is a top priority when he's scum; ergo, Bell is scum.
More bad logic: Bell was townread to death in a previous scumgame; he can be townread here; ergo, Bell is scum.

UNVOTE: Bell

My ego can't take GuiltyLion being scum. Do I really need to go back and take another look at him?
Why are you inviting me?
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Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 pm

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Ewbwop: phone post auto correct. Unvoting me*
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Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 pm

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I hadn't realized until you caused me to look at it again just now that it's a female rabbit
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 pm

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VOTE: GuiltyLion
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:36 pm

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I'm assuming by inviting you mean unvoting.

Because the self-meta argument is sounding more believable right now after looking at SIN.

PEdit> That sounds like another invitation to make a Bad Logic argument, given what happened in Two-Fold 2d3.
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Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm

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I look forward to your next bad logic release.
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Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:48 pm

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Bell who do you think the scumzor is
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 pm

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In post 2628, Isis wrote:I think tea leaves rolled scum this game
In post 2632, Isis wrote:2616 seems kind of inductive
I don't like that he's more confident about this than I am
confidently stating an element of his personality is really unsettling from Bell. I feel like there are sturdy ways to scumread his play for its independent aspects but like ignoring him saying "I don't cruelly bus partners if I don't have private communication" it can be correct to power through but how can it ever feel good to power through?
This game is rough
I had a feeling you would dislike that lol

It's reaffirming my previous reasons for thinking it was Bell. I believe Ydrasse could've mentioned pregame that she's okay with being bussed which wouldn't make it cruel, and it's not cruel anyway if it scum!Bell doesn't plan on following through with it, but just using it as a tool to distance.
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Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:13 pm

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i think we just win if we kill tea and Guilty
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Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:13 pm

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How can you be so confident on Bell-town?
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