Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[Morning Tweet]

Feels right

[tea leaves]

I too share the sentiment that Pine/Ydrasse were unlikely to talk about bussing pregame

Fair. This is all I could find on Ydrasse's opinions on bussing/distancing in scum PTs:

Subject: Newbie 2012 - Mafia Thread

...so hopefully this early pressure dissipates on you but if it doesn’t i might end up trying to bus you a bit for distance. but hopefully i can approach this as i would as town and end up having srs on others that seem more valid.

She did get launched day 1 in her last scum game though, and her buddy didn't bus, so i don't think it's out of the question she enters this game and says she's okay with it in pregame chat.

[tea leaves]

Feels right

openwolfing

[Bell]

Bell who do you think the scumzor is

Plz stop trying to figure out whether you should keep me alive till 3F.

[Morning Tweet]

"I'm okay with being bussed" doesn't invite your partner to attack you out of the blue and immediately at the start of the game (and in Guilty's case, a sustained attack for almost the whole way through)

it more just a way of saying "Let me go if you have to". at least that's how i interpret it. If i wanted to do a hard-bussing strat where we really go at each other, there'd more more talk than just "Bus me if you want"

that might just be me i guess

[tea leaves]

Remember when you cleared Not_Mafia because he hammered Phyyra Nikos out of the blue, Morning? Scum will do what's unexpected because it's exactly that; unexpected.

[Isis]

Bell who do you think the scumzor is

Plz stop trying to figure out whether you should keep me alive till 3F.

is this a way of saying you scumread me?

[tea leaves]

I'm actually feeling a lot better about this read now, and wouldn't even mind too much if I was stumped today. Still want to wait for Hobbes's replacement though.

[Isis]

Remember when you cleared Not_Mafia because he hammered Phyyra Nikos out of the blue, Morning? Scum will do what's unexpected because it's exactly that; unexpected.

I'm gonna stop you right there, that is absolutely not why Not Mafia hammered his partner out of the blue.

He did that because he is Not_mafia. He would have done it if every single player in thread expected it and let him know so.

[tea leaves]

That's a good point lol

[Bell]

Tea leaves is driving me a ~little~crazy
But my reads haven’t updated since my last ones.
I want to omgus but i know better. Even though he’s being obstinate and selectively reading what I say while ignoring significant pieces of information I see think he’s town for some reason.

[Bell]

Oh right. Clidd was town.

[tea leaves]

Link me the significant pieces of information please, Bell.

[Morning Tweet]

A little bit of that and also i thought NM was calling our most townie player obvscum in an attempt to keep him alive longer. Silly me for thinking there was logic behind his actions

[Bell]

There are a lot of attempts to discuss and engage. To make sure I didn’t do something they wouldn’t respond well to.
I even messed up a little on starbuck by questioning them and it made them look mildly scummy.

In the PT I need to mention there are two posts out of context that will lead to a visceral reaction.
But I need to be clear there, both of those don’t apply to this game because, not scum reading them would have gone against the flow of the game. Whereas here I went counter to it.

[tea leaves]

Oh, interesting. Guess I'll have to go and see what the game's opinions on Starbuck/Porkens were when you entered.

Will do that tomorrow.

[tea leaves]

A little bit of that and also i thought NM was calling our most townie player obvscum in an attempt to keep him alive longer. Silly me for thinking there was logic behind his actions

That would be Sinnoh region brain if that's what he was doing tbf

[Bell]

Also, I don’t angle on what is unexpected for the sake of the unexpected.
Drawing negative attention toward my partner. Puts them at risk of being read correctly as scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Has the game been solved yet

Btw I’ve been deliberately not posting, looks like Dann’s not holding stumps to prod rules

[Bell]

Oh, interesting. Guess I'll have to go and see what the game's opinions on Starbuck/Porkens were when you entered.

Will do that tomorrow.

See this keeps happening and

[tea leaves]

The game is currently a jigsaw puzzle, Gamma.

[Bell]

Has the game been solved yet

Btw I’ve been deliberately not posting, looks like Dann’s not holding stumps to prod rules

Hi gamma.

The game has not been solved yet.
Or, if it is, it’s not clear to me.

[Bell]

Did you know that Dann has been linking music videos in some of his vcs.
I liked the willow song.

[Bell]

How’s the guiltylion reread going @MT/Farren.
How’s the meta read going on me. @farren/Tea leaves.

My hopes are not high that I can change tea leaves mind.

[Farren]

Meta read on you is done already - I'd thought idly about going to look up what tea leaves was thinking re: starting opinions on Porkens / starbuck, but I don't see how that would change anything. I'd already stated that I thought the meta did establish that you have handled the game as scum in the past the way you said you would handle the game as scum now - leaving the possibility that you'd change your game as scum, or that you're Town. Right now, I think the latter is more likely.

GuiltyLion I haven't started yet, other than a brief look at just how long it's been since he's posted. (Answer: too long. Over a week.) I've been deliberately putting that one off in hopes that his replacement would show up.