Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

shellyc · Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:08 pm

In post 2263, Ydrasse wrote:also does rolestopper existing have any impact on the earlier ascetic claim alignment wise?

I don't think ascetic especially fits with rolestopper

rolestopper temporarily makes people ascetic

shellyc · Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:08 pm

DADDY

teacher · Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:11 pm

Yea. And I’m now a bit worried about how he shaded my rolestopper info for a future push. I fee he took the early townreads and has been coasting by.

Really what I’m struggling with is going to him or just going to IV. I really need to step back and do a holistic take of the game now that I actually understand my information. I don’t want osuka - I don’t think scum!osuka hops in there with the correct information in any event. If scum!osuka is doing it to save scum!kerset, it just strengthens already existing associatives. And if scum!osuka and town!kerset, then why not just butt out and let me be stupid for a bit longer? Like I don’t see any scum motivation for jumping in that cluster.

teacher · Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:12 pm

Pedit this was at ydrasse, but agree with Shelley’s posts too.

teacher · Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:12 pm

In post 2274, shellyc wrote:
In post 2257, osuka wrote:but ill compromise for saudade
what is this?

I read it as humor tbh.

shellyc · Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:13 pm

Osuka TR'ing town!kerset and their scumbuddy pushes through kerset. kerset flipping town and osuka getting boats of towncred

scum!osuka could save scum!kerset with a bit of wifom

teacher · Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:17 pm

It’s not the townread, it’s the role locker-rolestopper fiasco. Why not just let Kerset momentum build — he had already established his TR, why not get the cred for a townflip, and avoid further associatives if a scum flip. I don’t see him jumping in the middle of my error if scum and stopping it. Dumb town helps scum.

teacher · Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:20 pm

In post 2118, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1956, teacher wrote:
In post 1944, shellyc wrote:i am *alright* with a kerset lim but at the same time I'm afraid they are actually doctor
Gated doc in a game that lasts at most 5 nights = pretty weak Pr.

We have two anti-town town roles claimed, implying that town must have some decently strong PRs including some kind of investigative (Miller)

If town has two strong PRa plus gated doc (the kind of power that would justify two antitown roles), then scum likely has at least gated rolestopper.

Given suspicions of Kerset, scum do not shoot but instead block (at least when town reads become sufficiently common that they are worried about overlap).

This is why I think town has to resolve the Kerset slot. I don’t think scum does it for us. And I don’t think waiting for later makes it easier to eliminate a claimed PR.

If ever scum roleblocker type role flips. Teachs scum equity goes up.

Why go straight to roleblocker. Why discount scum hvaing tracker/ rolecop type roles

Here — bob catches my info crumb on rolestopper, prospectively shades me if one flips (and I know one exists), and still doesn’t correct the role stop/roleblock error. This troubled me a bit at the time and now that I outted my info I can say why.

osuka · Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 2271, teacher wrote:Osuka/saud talk to me about bob.

i dunno man, not much to say about bob. i expected him to be very vocal and very present but he's been neither and i don't know what to make of it

i could make up some bullshit about how town bob is both of the above and therefore he's scum but i'm not sure i believe that

Saudade · Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:26 pm

In post 2271, teacher wrote:Osuka/saud talk to me about bob.

I've nothing to give you about bob, my mind is filled with other slots and juggling 13 variables in my head constantly is too much for me :/

Saudade · Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:26 pm

He's in the same bracket as ndamath for me

Saudade · Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:28 pm

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VOTE: unvote

beep UNVOTE:

Saudade · Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:28 pm

life will be so much easier with kerset gone

osuka · Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 2287, Saudade wrote:life will be so much easier with kerset gone

have you heard of our lord and savior, the iv wagon

iv flips red this game trust me

Ydrasse · Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:31 pm

i'd feel safer voting for bob ig

Ydrasse · Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:32 pm

VOTE: bob

watever

teacher · Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:34 pm

Yea I’m heavily debating between converting to the church of IV or bob. I think I like voting bob more but can’t convince myself it’s the right play. Time to sleep.

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:40 pm

im like 10 pages behind because you people are maniacs... but CAN WE STOP SPECULATING ABOUT WHAT SCUM WILL OR WONT DO OR WHY SCUM SHOULD OR SHOULDNT DO THINGS? this only helps scum...

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:44 pm

In post 2121, osuka wrote:
In post 2090, Tayl0r Swift wrote:shelly is still town tho even if shellys posts atm are pretty weird.
why are you so adamant of town shelly

ive seen scum!shelly, this doesnt look like scum shelly.

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:46 pm

In post 2132, Datisi wrote:
also, i have a small mod announcement. my ruleset is getting a new rule:

Using scripts
- using scripts to alter or hide another player's posts is not allowed.

this isn't related to anything that's happened in this game, but for formality's sake i'm announcing it here since it is a mid-game rule addition.

okay, carry on with whatever you were doing.

does this mean ill actually have to

read

your posts now?

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:47 pm

In post 2141, osuka wrote:also my parents always told me i could be whatever i wanted to be and this game i felt like being town

why?

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:55 pm

In post 2197, osuka wrote:what makes you think town doesn't have a doctor and a jailkeeper or doctor + roleblocker

in term of setup spec, does a doc and JK combo or doc and roleblock combo make sense? why does it matter?> and how does a rolestop counter doc?

scum targets taylor swift for kill
scum rolestops taylor swift
doc sleeps peacefully
kill doesnt go through
taylor swift sleeps peacefully and awakes to find that scum are masochists

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:56 pm

In post 2198, teacher wrote:They stop a doc from docking, so eliminating the open doc doesn’t really lose towns power, since scum would block the protection anyway.

To be clear, I’m informed at least one mafia member has the role stopping ability. I don’t know if it’s gated or anything beyond that.

ROLESTOPPER DOESNT PREVENT A DOCTOR, unless its a loyal scum rolestopper or something? that sounds OP tho

osuka · Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:58 pm

In post 2295, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 2141, osuka wrote:also my parents always told me i could be whatever i wanted to be and this game i felt like being town
why?

what do you mean why

osuka · Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 2297, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 2198, teacher wrote:They stop a doc from docking, so eliminating the open doc doesn’t really lose towns power, since scum would block the protection anyway.

To be clear, I’m informed at least one mafia member has the role stopping ability. I don’t know if it’s gated or anything beyond that.
ROLESTOPPER DOESNT PREVENT A DOCTOR, unless its a loyal scum rolestopper or something? that sounds OP tho

rolestopper does actually, technically, yes, prevent a doctor

but it also makes the target bulletproof, so that point is completely moot