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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:18 am

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Vote count 1.28

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).


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bob3141 [4]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, Ydrasse, teacher
innocentvillager [3]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED
teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141
Kerset [1]:
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innocentvillager, Saudade


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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 2449, osuka wrote:sorry mena, what's your case on _me_ again? i was gonna say you can't read me but i'm pretty sure you're scum too so you know, whatever
Can you explain just a little more what you’re seeing with Menalque? I’ve been reading your ISO and I gotta be honest, I can’t read you. Like I could very much see you going either way. There are times when you make certain posts and I go yeah, that makes sense or that’s a good comment (say for example, your view in particular of Ydrasse’s posts in , and you’ve had some of the same reaction I have had towards Bob in ), but then I feel you’ve been too pushy of IV.
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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:23 am

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Like do you think Scum!Menalque tries so openly to take control of the game and push for a player in you that say, flips Town?
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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 2435, Menalque wrote:
In post 2425, Andresvmb wrote:I think {Bob, teacher} is not SvS. {Saudade, Kerset} is also not SvS. And {plusJOYED + Tayl0r, IV} I would guess is also not SvS. I want to solve one of these.
Do you specifically think that most of these are TvS?
I have the lingering suspicion that some of these almost have to be. There’s been too much positioning around Teacher and Kerset for example for some of the people on either side *not* to be Scum. Like Kerset and Teacher could very well both be Town. But the way everybody has been behaving around them and pushing one or defending the other definitely makes me thing that there’s Scum there for certain.
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:25 am

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^makes me think*
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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 2443, Menalque wrote:We’re not 98 pages in, thousands of posts in, and /that’s/ the reason why bob is top wagon
I see a lot of differences between how Bob has approached this game, and the game we played together where he flipped Town. Do you not think any of it is valid?
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 2451, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2449, osuka wrote:sorry mena, what's your case on _me_ again? i was gonna say you can't read me but i'm pretty sure you're scum too so you know, whatever
Can you explain just a little more what you’re seeing with Menalque? I’ve been reading your ISO and I gotta be honest, I can’t read you. Like I could very much see you going either way. There are times when you make certain posts and I go yeah, that makes sense or that’s a good comment (say for example, your view in particular of Ydrasse’s posts in , and you’ve had some of the same reaction I have had towards Bob in ), but then I feel you’ve been too pushy of IV.
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:39 am

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In post 2456, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 2451, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2449, osuka wrote:sorry mena, what's your case on _me_ again? i was gonna say you can't read me but i'm pretty sure you're scum too so you know, whatever
Can you explain just a little more what you’re seeing with Menalque? I’ve been reading your ISO and I gotta be honest, I can’t read you. Like I could very much see you going either way. There are times when you make certain posts and I go yeah, that makes sense or that’s a good comment (say for example, your view in particular of Ydrasse’s posts in , and you’ve had some of the same reaction I have had towards Bob in ), but then I feel you’ve been too pushy of IV.
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:39 am

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yeah I TR him pretty solidly
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:44 am

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rn i think it's
scum pile: iv, ndmath, teacher
maybe scum: saudade
tr everyone else pretty solidly at this point
same as last time but im null on bob now given his more recent stuff.
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:48 am

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People seem generally to want this day to end (ydrasse, mena, saudade and possibly others). While I personally think more discussion is better, it may be worth for us all to post our personal elim pool for the day so we can narrow down b4 the deadline so we come to a consensus
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:48 am

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See, @plus, I find it concerning that Bob was your top TR (with limited content, which you admitted), but the minute that a sizable wagon builds on him, you downgrade him to null.
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:49 am

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In post 2452, Andresvmb wrote:Like do you think Scum!Menalque tries so openly to take control of the game and push for a player in you that say, flips Town?
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 2461, Andresvmb wrote:See, @plus, I find it concerning that Bob was your top TR (with limited content, which you admitted), but the minute that a sizable wagon builds on him, you downgrade him to null.
i get why you think that. In actuality my whole TR on him was from his opener and "scum wouldn't play like this" but then shelly stated today that his town play is a lot different so maybe he is just scum being scummy.
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 2449, osuka wrote:sorry mena, what's your case on _me_ again? i was gonna say you can't read me but i'm pretty sure you're scum too so you know, whatever
I think your iso is largely empty of any real impetus to solve the game, I think you’ve been lazily tunnelling IV all game because that’s often a strategy of least resistance as scum (“I have reads look how much I think this person is scum! Wait, what about reads on the rest of the PL? Look how scummy this person is!”)

You have a lot of fluffposring that looks like it’s there just to be present and so that you can show up in the thread and not be accused of lurking, and broadly your takes have been very safe apart from the fact that you’re OMGUSing me
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:57 am

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In post 2451, Andresvmb wrote:I’ve been reading your ISO and I gotta be honest, I can’t read you.
Okay, I think I can, so can you please get on board with this because I don’t particularly want to get shouty about this.
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:58 am

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There’s also like, a veritable shitton of associatives between plus and osuka so I think that if osuka does flip red plus needs to die tomorrow for sure
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:00 am

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Like I was wondering for a second if he’d defend a buddy quite as blatantly as he is on this page but then seeing as I’m having this much trouble actually getting votes onto osuka I guess it’s not that high risk to be seen as taking a stance defending him
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:00 am

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@bob & IV, do you scumread each other?
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:03 am

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In post 2453, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2435, Menalque wrote:
In post 2425, Andresvmb wrote:I think {Bob, teacher} is not SvS. {Saudade, Kerset} is also not SvS. And {plusJOYED + Tayl0r, IV} I would guess is also not SvS. I want to solve one of these.
Do you specifically think that most of these are TvS?
I have the lingering suspicion that some of these almost have to be. There’s been too much positioning around Teacher and Kerset for example for some of the people on either side *not* to be Scum. Like Kerset and Teacher could very well both be Town. But the way everybody has been behaving around them and pushing one or defending the other definitely makes me thing that there’s Scum there for certain.
Well yeah, I think that’s very likely, there’s over half the PL in those pairings. G2h which pairing do you think is most likely to have scum?
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:04 am

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In post 2464, Menalque wrote:
In post 2449, osuka wrote:sorry mena, what's your case on _me_ again? i was gonna say you can't read me but i'm pretty sure you're scum too so you know, whatever
I think your iso is largely empty of any real impetus to solve the game, I think you’ve been lazily tunnelling IV all game because that’s often a strategy of least resistance as scum (“I have reads look how much I think this person is scum! Wait, what about reads on the rest of the PL? Look how scummy this person is!”)

You have a lot of fluffposring that looks like it’s there just to be present and so that you can show up in the thread and not be accused of lurking, and broadly your takes have been very safe apart from the fact that you’re OMGUSing me
Incidentally I can pull quotes for this if I have to but it’s pretty easily visible if you just ISO osuka
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:05 am

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I’m trying to broadly avoid doing cases as I think they’re mostly useful to scum or as scum when trying to look town vs actually “demonstrating” that anyone is scum through like the sheer power of logic or whatever
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:05 am

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I’d guillo IV before Osuka, so count at least me out.
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am

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Why.
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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am

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