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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 173, shellyc wrote:
In post 135, Fidget wrote:does this come off as genuine paranoia to you, shelly?
it does.
Okay then. Has anything leia said on this page seemed genuine to you?

What I'm trying to say is, she's doing a bit and you're townreading parts of it for seeming like paranoia.. when the paranoia is stuff like "Shelly, tell me, why are you at the bottom of the playerlist? Suspicious."
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:16 pm

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Oh of course that would pagetop.
In post 175, Fidget wrote:Okay then. Has anything leia said on
this page
the last page seemed genuine to you?
Also bumping this for shelly, I am very interested in an elaboration of 126
In post 137, Gypyx wrote:
In post 126, shellyc wrote:Gypyx's responses give me the vibe of scum being cornered tbh
Cornered on what lmao, this whole conversation had no link to the game
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 pm

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Fidget, what's your Leia read?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:01 pm

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i cant quite tell if pob is trolling, or just dense. which makes it a good troll.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:31 pm

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agree
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:48 pm

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elaboration of 126 - i didn't especially like the tone of the responses to leia's questions which were mostly fluff.

plus talk to me
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 130, PlusJOYED wrote:Actually, imo it's a bit of a towntell. Assuming maf has day chat, wouldn't the mafia buddies freak out in the PT and make him take it back? But he didn't really. Granted maf could just not care or be inacive as they don't think it'll go anywhere, so it's a pretty weak towntell. But i think its a towntell nonetheless
this is wifomy

this is a bit like "scum will never vote scumbuddies"
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:20 pm

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In post 138, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 74, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 53, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along
what would be the good reason?

and if it was a reaction test, why would you (as hypothetical town) voting me be beneficial?
youd have to ask BM that. i was just playing along. to be clear, are you now saying you didnt want to be voted? if so, why ask in the first place?
partly shits and giggles, partly to see if any opportunistic scum would get over-excited and present themselves. You voting for me in that scenario, whilst also saying you think i'm town, looks scummy because:

A. Why would you assume I'm town there?
B. If I'm town, why you voting me?
C. If I'm town doing a reaction test, the reaction test would presumably be to fish for opportunistic scum, so how does Taylor-town voting me help?
D. I simply don't buy that you thought I had some clever reason or plan.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:21 pm

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will catch up on rest later ofc
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm

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In post 96, Gypyx wrote:
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
I disagree, town is heavily incentivized to exe scum D1, therefore a gambit like that will not get a lot of weight on it's own imo, especially considered that BM unvoted pretty fast
I don't think we're disagreeing. I just don't see a weak scum player making that move.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm

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In post 113, Princess Leia wrote:Why is your signature "bottom text", Gypyx? I'd get if it was something interesting or linked to previous games like shellyChandelier is doing, but having it just as that makes me think you're trying to distract us from reading your posts, because you're afraid the stuff you're saying will look suspicious.

Tayl0r, Gypyx are in the suspect pool.

pob long is in the locktown pool.

shelly is still on the diving board. Don't know about her yet but I have some things on my mind that I still want to question her on. I don't want to bombard her with questions though!
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are you really basing your scumreads on "bottom text" shelly "C"???

I think we're well out of RVS. Stop distracting the game with your gimmick.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:11 pm

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In post 121, Princess Leia wrote:
In post 112, Not Known 15 wrote:
Send to the Trial 1.1Not Voting (5) EddieFenix; Marashu; RedPanda; Vecna; shellyc;

Tayl0r Swift (4) pob long; Gypyx; Fidget; Princess Leia;

pob long (2) Battle Mage; DrippingGoofball;

Battle Mage (2) Nosferatu; Tayl0r Swift;

RedPanda (1) Titus;

Vecna (1) PlusJOYED;

EddieFenix (0)

Nosferatu (0)

Marashu (0)

Gypyx (0)

Princess Leia (0)

PlusJOYED (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Titus (0)

Fidget (0)

shellyc (0)

With 15 alive, you need 8 to send someone to the trials with absolute majority vote, and 2 to send someone to the trials with relative majority vote at the end of the day. No Elimination is disabled.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-09-25 11:00:00) or when someone has been sent to the trials by absolute majority.
shelly, why are you at the bottom of this votecount?
wtf?
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 pm

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In post 139, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 56, pob long wrote:
In post 53, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along
so you are assuming bm is Town,?
is this the question i ignored? uh yeah, i think that town draws attention to themselves like that more often than scum.
why would you want town to go to trial?
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:20 pm

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In post 172, Titus wrote:I'm not reading pages of people quadra posting. If you got something to say, be more efficient.
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VOTE: Taylor
mod do you not accept bolded votes?
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:03 pm

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In post 171, Princess Leia wrote:@Fidget and plusjoy
I want you both to answer this.

Do you think pob long is a cat or a dog person? I also want you to explain what you'd do if you walked into a room and found pob long lying face down on his desk, as if he was planking but his legs are too far up the desk so it's not planking. Note, it is the 15th century in this scenario and mobile phones do not exist. You are also in a remote hut in the Sahara Desert. It is built onto an oasis so it is cool and you have water. You also have clothes and oatmeal, but that's about it.

pob long has a scumread and you are 80% sure he is town. Do you follow him on it?
OK what the hell is this?? are you even playing the game???? dont you even care? plus why the h**l would i have a big heavy Oak desk out toe the middle of the desert??
In post 178, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i cant quite tell if pob is trolling, or just dense. which makes it a good troll.
huh????????? you are so scum!!!! you keep on ignoring everything im saying to you you keep on joking around with me you and leia
In post 185, RedPanda wrote:Stop distracting the game with your gimmick.
Stop distracting the game with your gimmick.
^agree with this guy!
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:05 pm

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In post 188, RedPanda wrote:
mod do you not accept bolded votes?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:12 pm

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@Leia
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:12 pm

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In post 173, shellyc wrote:
In post 135, Fidget wrote:does this come off as genuine paranoia to you, shelly?
it does.
So you think that town would geniunely think that finishing your username by a "C" is scummy?
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:16 pm

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In post 168, Marashu wrote:
In post 119, Princess Leia wrote:
In post 4, Gypyx wrote:Wooo hello everyone, btw i have a curse that makes me alternate scum and town games, can i be conftown? K thx
I'm suspicious in part because I looked into this, and it isn't true at all. You rolled town twice in a row, and also rolled scum twice in a row.

Gives me even more inclination that you're setting in gambler's fallacy psychological tricks on us to make us think you're town.
Somebody called for a gambler's fallacy?

In post 6, Gypyx wrote:I have a theory that every trial is influenced by the trials that happened before btw

Also, might be me overanalysing wording but "the game starts with 12 vanilla town and 3 mafia goon" leaves room open for us gaining PR's later, does that seem like a realistic possibility?
OP said that there are 6 possible trials, based on day and alignment. I don't think that they're based on previous results; I think there's D1 town, D1 mafia, D2 town, D2 mafia, D3 town, and D3 mafia, and what those are should already be set. Scum team also decides on consequences, if I understood the setup correctly, so it's possible that their choices will change things more than the results.
In post 20, Battle Mage wrote:big balls Mage here, volunteering to do the first trial.

Vote: Battle Mage
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In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:bad executions can be VERY bad for either team, especially a Day 1 scum execution.
Because this, going willingly to trial D1 is against your alignement in every case, even more than normally
I disagree with gypyx here. You can, as town, get a win for yourself even if your team loses, making a jester-like play possible (but if you jesterwin here, it's because you did well and that will help town). We know that trials are difficult for town to succeed. With no mention of mafia, I'm inferring that it's not difficult for mafia to succeed. However, passing trials helps town, not the team of whoever passed, so sending scum to a trial will give them a situation where they need to decide to help town at the risk of their own success, or fail and hope that one of their buddies also doesn't go to trial.

It's better for us to send scum to trial. It's bad news for us to send lynchbait to trial. It can be good for us to send competent town to trial, but at the end of the day I think it just comes down to, scumhunt and eliminate scum.
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
I agree with this. I've been trying to think whether it's better to send competent town or scum to trial D1. So BM can be town for now.
In post 137, Gypyx wrote:
In post 126, shellyc wrote:Gypyx's responses give me the vibe of scum being cornered tbh
Cornered on what lmao, this whole conversation had no link to the game
Weird that you don't see it, or are trying to brush it off.


Also, V/LA until Saturday, more emphasis on limited access. I'll be around but won't really be able to focus on the game until then.
Quoting public info there :

"The results of trials can be changed by other trials."

And yes, sending comptent town might be helpful, but that means they won't be here to help later, plus scum exe are VERY bad apparently, i think this outweights any advantage that trialing town could give

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Well, if you see anything, why aren't you pointing it out / voting me?
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:18 pm

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In post 156, Princess Leia wrote:
In post 123, Gypyx wrote:
In post 122, Princess Leia wrote:Gypyx, you make me feel uneasy. The way you're talking makes me feel like you're laughing behind my back while keeping up a straight face while speaking to me. It's really unnerving.
Well, i'm not being serious in case you haven't noticed
Being flippant isn't a good look for you, Gypyx. I'm trying to seriously learn your alignment and you're just jokingly dismissing my attempts :(

I'll try again:
Do you think pob long is the type of player to have breakfast in the morning before posting, or would he check his phone and post in bed as soon as he woke up?
You ask non-serious questions, you get non-serious answers

Pob's probably the kind of guy to skip breakfast
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pm

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Anyways, anyone in for a Leia wagon?VOTE: Princess Leia

Also RedPanda i think you're town, what are your reads?
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:34 pm

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That vote is a piece of crap!
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:37 pm

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In post 190, pob long wrote:
In post 188, RedPanda wrote:
mod do you not accept bolded votes?
In post 191, pob long wrote:@Leia
Sorry, am I the mod? I didn't realise, I sometimes mix up the games I'm modding with the games I'm playing. I'll count it next time.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:38 pm

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I am pretty sure Tayl0r is scum.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:53 pm

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In post 45, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 41, shellyc wrote:nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt :)
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.
shelly crayon-lover?

VOTE: BM are you confident you can pass the trial?
This looks like a pressure vote since BM is volunteering for trial which is LAMISTy. (Fair)
In post 53, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along
She says she's voting him to play along with whatever he's doing. (There is no good reason for why other than to pressure BM)
In post 57, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 56, pob long wrote:
In post 53, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along
so you are assuming bm is Town,?
i guess? i cant imagine scum asking to be lunched immediately like that.
TMIs BM as town, and contradicts the reasoning for the original vote.
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