Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[shellyc]

wtf? This game is pretty closely related to psychology

uhh yeah I meant more as to specific terminology used in psychology

I need to get your mindset to read you. making yourself unreadable is pro-scum

[shellyc]

daddy

[innocentvillager]

osuka if you are town nice job

This is scum that has given up

Not sure how else you could possibly interpret this

it is literal sarcasm

....why would scum!me move my vote off you onto myself when you are literally 2 votes from getting elimd

[shellyc]

osuka if you are town nice job

This is scum that has given up

Not sure how else you could possibly interpret this

town that has given up...

Like I just recently got a lim in mylo using "this is scum that gave up" on an inactive poster

[shellyc]

scum in this chaotic mess can easily latch on to whatever wagon and get a free misaim

tbh I don't see scum!iv doing this

[shellyc]

*mislim

[PlusJOYED]

leaning towards this being IV scum AtE
I think frusterated town IV would have walked away after the self vote and come back later. Instead he's sulking here to drive it in, definitely trying to take advantage of it regardless

[innocentvillager]

if I were town!osuka knowing what I know I would definitely have doubts about scum!IV at this point I think

[shellyc]

lets dive deeper plusjoy

scum!iv uses AtE to do what exactly? get votes on himself?

[shellyc]

what is he trying to do by self voting

he gains nothing by doing that AtE so I can only interpret it as frustrated town

[innocentvillager]

I have been away from this game for 2 days

I came back and came to the same conclusion

I am not heated right now

This is my belief in what is best for me and town

[shellyc]

ould have walked away after the self vote and come back later.

you're generalising too much

[innocentvillager]

I also kind of just want to know who is scum at this point and get spoilered

like scum is literally never going to kill me so I’m either going to survive to LYLO (almost impossible) or just get eliminated by town earlier

I’d much rather just give you guys something to work with after I flip NOW rather than later

[PlusJOYED]

ok heres my thinking shelly:
scum IV did a scumslip a while back
He whined about how he should just die and broke down. It got Mena to feel sympathy and hard defend him for like 5 pages since they had scumslips as town before apparently and dismantled the wagon. Now that he's up in votes and sees it, he hopes to use the same strategy again to have his mena pocket save him. And if he dies and flips red mena will probably get elimed day 2 for defending and he knows that. This is the best place for it, since mena is tunneling osuka and osuka is highest in votes. Mena will feel bad again and tunnel a townie for him. Rinse and repeat as needed.

[PlusJOYED]

I don't think how much you realize shelly that mena holds a lot of influence right now; who do you think got osuka to the highest votes? Mena has probably the most influence tbh, able to convince Ydrasse, andres, you, and possibly more to vote almost anyone. That pocket is op and he can rely on it hard for as long as possible.

[innocentvillager]

I’m trying to think of whether I would do this as scum or not and actually answer I think is maybe

So I wouldn’t even fault any of you for hopping on my wagon at this point, I do believe my AtE at this point has been kind of NAI

And yes I am very aware I am AtEing here but it’s not for a specific objective it’s literally just AtE for its sake

[PlusJOYED]

Here, when Mena sees this, they will tryhard to get an osuka elim and it will probably happen. Osuka will flip green. IV will whine about being a burden with bad reads start of day 2 and the same thing will happen again. IV needs to die today.

[innocentvillager]

yeah if osuka dies today and is green I will probably just self vote unless I get a revelation overnight

If he flips red I will try I promise

[innocentvillager]

it’s not like I didn’t try yesterday, I did spend like 1-2 hours rereading stuff

[PlusJOYED]

My point is shelly, is that AtE got IV out of trouble before, why wouldn't he do it again

[innocentvillager]

I feel like this is one of those spots where if I flip green it will be incredibly easy to hindsight bias paint me as town and if I flip red it will also be incredibly hindsight bias obvious that I was red

so yeah bias is a thing guys not everything is scummy just because you think they’re scum, you can come up with a reason to interpret anything either way

[PlusJOYED]

well iv if you flip green im the day 2 elim pretty sure
well me or osuka

[Andresvmb]

Kerset is tunneling Teacher almost, after somewhat tunneling me. plusJOYED’s 2325 makes it pretty clear where they would vote, which also includes Teacher.

lol? i called out ONE doubt on you and it causes you to act like chihuahua

I asked you multiple times to update your read and you never did. I believe the only one of the two constantly being accused of whining is you not me.

[Andresvmb]

The thing is, I don’t think it’s very likely this game that all of Menalque, IV and Osuka are Town. I don’t. But there’s something off about the way Menalque is pushing for Osuka, and frankly I think there’s something off about the way Osuka is pushing IV. And the more I read plusJOYED, the more I think they’re kind of informed about alignments and enjoying throwing darts from the sideline.

[Andresvmb]

I don’t understand why Bob is being so passive. To be honest, I have one read I trust, and I think everybody else could potentially be Scum. And I generally find myself in games TR’ing too many people, and not what’s happening here.