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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:52 am

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This is a bit of a reach, but I think mena went after Osuka cause they wanted IV to live and Osuka is an easy target for a day 1 elim
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:52 am

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Yeah I know Menalque is the type of player that is absolutely capable of pushing hard as Scum. It takes a certain personality. I know I can do it too, but it’s not my preferred style.
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 am

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Alright Bob, are you staying on Teacher? What are you going to do?
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:59 am

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At the moment I hate all the main lynches :-(


I think osuka vs menal is town v town.
I feel players are making many associations based on village. A village lynch at the moment im feeling would be no more than damage limitation. A slot that has some chance to flip scum and isnt going to end up with miskill of a town pr or outing of one.
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 am

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agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 am

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Out of village an osuka i would prob pick village.


Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:14 am

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PlusJOYED wrote:agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much
exactly what the fuck would it clear? i know I’m town and I believe you’re town but I don’t have any clear idea of what’s going on
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 am

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sorry I didn’t mean that in an insulting way, I do use profanity a fair amount but if I do it’s never meant to be insulting
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 2953, bob3141 wrote:At the moment I hate all the main lynches :-(


I think osuka vs menal is town v town.
I feel players are making many associations based on village. A village lynch at the moment im feeling would be no more than damage limitation. A slot that has some chance to flip scum and isnt going to end up with miskill of a town pr or outing of one.
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yeah kind of seems like I’m the obvious choice when you say it like that huh?
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am

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bob, have you seen scum!osuka? Or only town!osuka?
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am

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I did a brief metadive on osuka and tried to find a scum game... all were from like 2018 and he was completely different there

But he was also kind of different in his old town games too
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 am

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iv playing so surface level and being so lost while using AtE makes it pretty clear to me he's scum just trying to avoid dying without any intent to solve.
pedit: sorry iv it"s nothing personal
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 2955, bob3141 wrote:Out of village an osuka i would prob pick village.


Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights
agree on that.
If I was scum I'd stay away from osuka and let him self destruct in TvT fights.
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

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yeah I somewhat believe bob is town, I have yet to look at more meta but the scum!bob posting from one random game really does seem more engaged and more stiff, i’d rather eliminate me than bob
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

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plus how I am playing surface level...?
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:24 am

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you really think being lost is a scum indicator??? this is confbias at its finest
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:24 am

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In post 2960, innocentvillager wrote:I did a brief metadive on osuka and tried to find a scum game... all were from like 2018 and he was completely different there

But he was also kind of different in his old town games too

only town.

Osuka as town tends to respond to any scum read of him as if it was stupid. Even if it's reasonable. Which gives the impression to those pushing him that he is doing ate. Which is what I think has snagged menal.
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 am

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right, I feel that, so how do you know that is not how scum!osuka responds too

he certainly had a bite to him in some of his scum games too
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:26 am

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Thats what making it hard :-(

Im going to find soem i think is scum and pick the players based on their reads
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:27 am

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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:30 am

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everyway i look at it. I just like the wagon composition on osuka better. If the scum team is on it then im prob pocketed :-(

I hope I've not gone from one game with amazing reads to another will terrible reads
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:35 am

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Being able to find scum in one game does not necessarily mean you are able to in another

frequently I get a big head after a game I played well/nailed scum/right on all my townreads

then later I have another shit game where I massively fail a read or I just have no fucking idea

a lot of it is simply luck despite what we would like to believe :P
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:45 am

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In post 2970, bob3141 wrote:everyway i look at it. I just like the wagon composition on osuka better. If the scum team is on it then im prob pocketed :-(

I hope I've not gone from one game with amazing reads to another will terrible reads
I honestly think the wagon on osuka is pretty townie, I just think town is wrong here
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 2971, innocentvillager wrote:Being able to find scum in one game does not necessarily mean you are able to in another

frequently I get a big head after a game I played well/nailed scum/right on all my townreads

then later I have another shit game where I massively fail a read or I just have no fucking idea

a lot of it is simply luck despite what we would like to believe :P

tis not luck

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It says Reply hazy, try again


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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 1173, NDMath wrote:
In post 1109, teacher wrote:Nd math, that’s a pretty narrow post to reenter with. What would you say is your availability generally? What are your own takes? Etc.
I spent more time on that post than the others, doesn't show because I couldn't come to a conclusion on kerset and gave up.
My top townread is IV because I understand his thought process and like his interactions with others.
osuka is being over-townread if that's a term but I'm not convinced that's scum driven.
shelly's iso is much townier than I expected it to be.
Mena's stands out because of its similarities with .

In post 1134, bob3141 wrote:Question is the kerset wagon on town or scum. For both cases im leaning on the first 4 votes being town.

If Iv is town then i would expect more pressure on kerset if he was town with him.
Teacher asked a variation of this, but are you saying that if kerset flips town you expect the people who pushed kerset to also be town?
teacher wrote:VOTE: NDMath
Coming in once a morning with a narrow post is not acceptable to me. I need to see you actually interact and play.
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In post 2837, NDMath wrote:
In post 2410, shellyc wrote:Why does rolestopper flip prove you as town? rolestopper doesn't mean assured ascetic claim
I said some town points if I'm proven not targetable after mafia rolestopper dies.
Threw it out there because it was asked what the implications were on my alignment.

In post 2829, shellyc wrote:tbh the warring / division isn't helping; we should post our lynchpools
Same as teacher:
Bob>IV>Osuka to get an elim through.
Scumteam I'm slightly leaning towards is first two with Mena. Mena + IV had the 'determine kerset's gate' idea at the same time and Mena's defense of IV seemed quite out there. Both slots specifically Mena ignored Bob but encouraged the status quo of Bob being townie / not an elim target.

In post 2836, shellyc wrote:I'm not cherrypicking. I'm describing how the majority of your posts look like and they are devoid of content
The post you quoted kerset was swinging their first at the air, while most of them have some intent or question.

Math can you go over how osuka Village went from atop town read to below osuka. A player backing in the 1100 you said was being over townread
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