Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.36

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

innocentvillager [4]:

Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka, innocentvillager

osuka [3]:

Ydrasse, shellyc, Saudade

bob3141 [2]:

NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:

Kerset, bob3141

PlusJOYED [1]:

Andresvmb

Not Voting [1]:

Menalque

mod notes

~ tbh i just wanted the pagetop

flavour

[shellyc]

And the more I read plusJOYED, the more I think they’re kind of informed about alignments and enjoying throwing darts from the sideline.

finally someone could put it in words

plusjoy confuses me

[shellyc]

why do people not see that IV is scum, the AtE is literally right there

he's not

iv is just frustrated town and he used the wrong method to vent his frustration

stop manipulating me into voting

[shellyc]

peddit: agree on taylor tbh

wtf taylor is just being passive and lurky and not even trying to solve

they're a scumlean and you're juet being agreeable

[shellyc]

I'd honestly prefer me to be elimed here over osuka

?????????

[teacher]

19 hours..... Why is there no urgency to consolidate -- like wtf is a vote one someone nobody has been discussing andres? Its time to get a lim not just posture. What lim that is remotely possible do you want to go through?

[Andresvmb]

19 hours..... Why is there no urgency to consolidate -- like wtf is a vote one someone nobody has been discussing andres? Its time to get a lim not just posture. What lim that is remotely possible do you want to go through?

I’m not going to consolidate onto a bad push. Like I actually think plus has a decent chance to flip Scum. I’ve been saying it literally all day. At different points something would ping me about plus and I’ve been pushing it to the side while you all had a very specific type of contest.

[teacher]

Why is bob a bad push?

Is no-lim better than a bad lim? (no). Plus isnt going to be a lim, so do something productive.

[Andresvmb]

Menalque coming out with their nonsense about how I’m all of a sudden suspicious because I didn’t vote for Osuka when they wanted me to but after I had taken some time to reflect is really putting me over the edge here. That set of posts was the epitome of not taking ownership for your mistakes. I wasn’t the one arguing that another player had tripped a particular tell only to backtrack later. Give me a break.

[shellyc]

I don't get why people don't consider the idea of mena vs osuka being TvT

not everything is TvT

[Andresvmb]

Why is bob a bad push?

Is no-lim better than a bad lim? (no). Plus isnt going to be a lim, so do something productive.

I don’t SR Bob and I think he can make himself more useful later. If he keeps this low activity level and fails to really drive the conversation even after we’ve had some more information sure, by all means. He specifically spoke about his own meta regarding this not being his Scum game. Can anybody verify that?

[shellyc]

Here’s the thing. Menalque’s push on Osuka has been loud, obnoxious, and way overconfident. Menalque is either correct, Town, and will be completely obvious tomorrow. Or, he will try and sleaze his way out of a bad situation if Osuka flips Town, and we will have to make a decision as to whether he is worth listening to anymore, is Town, or is just Scum and needs to go.

it's more aggressive than effective, yes, but it's today's leading wagon

[shellyc]

andres sometimes limming the person town needs to lim is more important than limming your SR

[Andresvmb]

agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much

This is the sort of thing that pings me. Plus has been very consistently focused on a three person Scum Team since about the middle of the day. And despite everything that’s happened, plus has not really changed their view much. Opportunistically downgrading players here and there based on how the game was moving {Saudade, Bob}, but not really moving away from an {IV, Teacher, NDMath} solve. Despite that, there’s a lot of positioning around a potential IV Town flip. And plus was almost too confident in establishing that Osuka v. Menalque was TvT. But wants to restrict the flip today to IV/Osuka? I’m not buying it.

[shellyc]

tbh I think 2954 reads scum for being focused / positioned in a world with townflipped iv

I have been confused at plusjoy's words a lot I want to scumread them but my gut reads town on them.

[shellyc]

plusjoy's ISO is messy

having weird, opportunistic reads and not actually doing much to solve

[Andresvmb]

Okay but none of you have really offered a compelling alternative at all. Menalque just retracted their push on Osuka, who I can’t read really. I don’t want to do Bob. And an IV flip is honestly probably just bad. Yeah IV could theoretically be doing all that AtE and self-voting as Scum. But even under consistent pressure, IV has been completely unable to really direct the pressure anywhere specific. Constantly claiming to not have any idea who is Scum here. It’s such a misplay as Scum I’m almost willing to give it a pass.

[shellyc]

I want to do osuka despite mena retracting
I'm fine with kerset
i don't really want to do iv
I kinda want to do bob tbh

[Andresvmb]

I don’t know. I want someone to convince me that I’m an idiot for SR’ing plus and I’ll join whatever wagon you want. In the mean time, given the options, this is what I want to do. If this becomes obviously unviable and we’re approaching deadline, fine I’ll swallow my pride and vote somewhere else.

[Menalque]

I’m not saying osuka is town, I’m saying the reasons I had for lockscumming him yesterday based on his reaction to my calling out his ellitell was NAI I think

[Andresvmb]

I’m not saying osuka is town, I’m saying the reasons I had for lockscumming him yesterday based on his reaction to my calling out his ellitell was NAI I think

You’re making me want to throw my phone towards the wall.

[shellyc]

you're not an idiot I'm confunded by plus

but they are not today's elimination

[Menalque]

I’m kind of in flux and idk where I want to go rn

[Menalque]

I’m not saying osuka is town, I’m saying the reasons I had for lockscumming him yesterday based on his reaction to my calling out his ellitell was NAI I think

You’re making me want to throw my phone towards the wall.

Wonderful

Why

[Andresvmb]

I’m not saying osuka is town, I’m saying the reasons I had for lockscumming him yesterday based on his reaction to my calling out his ellitell was NAI I think

You’re making me want to throw my phone towards the wall.

Wonderful

Why

How am I supposed to trust your view of Osuka when you readily admit that part of your argument is compromised?