Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[Bell]

Yes.

[tea leaves]

Bell, you feel kinda desperate not to be launched and that's usually pretty scum-indicative :/

Make no mistake, i’m not giving you permission to stump me. Too many town make that mistake. I’m simply stating that after all the posts i’ve made if you can’t see it, then you can’t see it.

Is there a reason for this? What if we mislaunch today and then you're up tomorrow? Is it really that bad if town!you gets stumped today, especially considering the oil thing?

Also, if you're like this and so against yourself being launched as town, linking the meta would be very helpful.

[Bell]

Tea leaves do you consider yourself a good scum hunter?

[Farren]

Going to point out that with deadline looming, this is probably not the best time to be asking for extended meta-dives.

[Bell]

I haven’t been wagoned since I got back.

On my old account 6 years ago, I had a few games where I was extremely defensive.

[Bell]

I never quite got over people misreading me after I spent inordinate amounts of time showing why they were wrong.

[Bell]

It results in a feeling of bitterness.

[Farren]

I've got about five more hours of sporadic access, with frequent interruptions; one more hour of dedicated access, and then I'm gone until deadline.

[Bell]

I won’t be like gamma if I don’t get burnt up though. I’ll be giving you a hard time in here instead.

[Bell]

I suspect that your case making skills are considered poor. Given that you mentioned you liked this player list because they wouldn’t bite your head off for trying and making mistakes.

I don’t want to bite your head off. But I will be asking you a lot of questions about why you said you were thinking or that maybe i’m Not while never actually moving an inch or really not constantly implying I was scum throughout our discussions. I ultimately think that after this game I need to re-examine how I defend myself because i’m putting in significant amounts of effort to get it right, to make it clear, to virtually no effect if you’re town.

[Bell]

Also, the e-1 thing by farren just isn’t a good take.
It seems to vary wildly from game to game from what i’ve seen.
I was in a micro where a player named bingle got extremely suspicious of a player for putting another player at e-1 without mentioning it.
It didn’t work out there. They were pretty town otherwise.

Ironically, he later accidentally hammered.

[Farren]

Bingle, or the other player, accidentally hammered?

[Bell]

Bingle did.

[Farren]

Was Bingle scum?

[Morning Tweet]

You can't put in so much effort that it makes it 100% clear to people that you're town. You just can't. Especially in this game where every single player has plenty of good things going for them

[Bell]

I’m not saying it might be accurate on some cases and I agree I could have said e-1 and that would have been to greater effect I think.
Just for obvious reasons both isis and I can’t both be scum so there’s a clear flaw in your face to using that reasoning to scum read people alone.

[Morning Tweet]

I would say the burden of getting the read right is on the reader, yes, but that doesn't make someone a poor scumhunter for getting it wrong :I

[Bell]

Was Bingle scum?

Nope. The player was town too.

[Bell]

I would say the burden of getting the read right is on the reader, yes, but that doesn't make someone a poor scumhunter for getting it wrong :I

I gave him significantly more than the average player would give him.while farren wasn’t convinced he could at least follow along.

[Morning Tweet]

What you've given as been generally pretty effective to my kind of townreading style (it's emotion-based and self-meta-based at this point >->) but I still cannot fault someone for getting a read wrong esp in a conspiracy game like this.

I feel like everyone here could be probably justifiably be entitled to a "Are you shitting me you think it's me?!!?" reaction to getting exiled at this point

[Bell]

I can’t argue with that.
I just lost my temper.

[Bell]

But, no to me tea leaves case and pursuit of it is off.
I just don’t think it’s scum off.

[Farren]

I applaud your ability to keep your cool when losing your temper.

[Farren]

Isis felt genuine.

Is that Town-indicative in this case?

[Bell]

That’s really difficult to quantify.
I think for other reasons, she’s town this game.