Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[shellyc]

The only reason why I am not on plus is because i dont think it's a viable wagon

but I want them ideally tomorrow

[shellyc]

DADDY

[NDMath]

Math feels like they've just skirted on the sidelines harder than anyone else and I don't like it. The ascetic claim isn't a pass to not engage, and I think they are probably mafia ascetic

Is this a fancy way of saying I don't post as much as everyone else?

Nd math, that’s a pretty narrow post to reenter with. What would you say is your availability generally? What are your own takes? Etc.

I spent more time on that post than the others, doesn't show because I couldn't come to a conclusion on kerset and gave up.
My top townread is IV because I understand his thought process and like his interactions with others.
osuka is being over-townread if that's a term but I'm not convinced that's scum driven.
shelly's iso is much townier than I expected it to be.
Mena's 410 stands out because of its similarities with 333.

Question is the kerset wagon on town or scum. For both cases im leaning on the first 4 votes being town.

If Iv is town then i would expect more pressure on kerset if he was town with him.

Teacher asked a variation of this, but are you saying that if kerset flips town you expect the people who pushed kerset to also be town?

VOTE: NDMath
Coming in once a morning with a narrow post is not acceptable to me. I need to see you actually interact and play.

okay

Why does rolestopper flip prove you as town? rolestopper doesn't mean assured ascetic claim

I said some town points if I'm proven not targetable after mafia rolestopper dies.
Threw it out there because it was asked what the implications were on my alignment.

tbh the warring / division isn't helping; we should post our lynchpools

Same as teacher:
Bob>IV>Osuka to get an elim through.
Scumteam I'm slightly leaning towards is first two with Mena. Mena + IV had the 'determine kerset's gate' idea at the same time and Mena's defense of IV seemed quite out there. Both slots specifically Mena ignored Bob but encouraged the status quo of Bob being townie / not an elim target.

I'm not cherrypicking. I'm describing how the majority of your posts look like and they are devoid of content

The post you quoted kerset was swinging their first at the air, while most of them have some intent or question.

Math can you go over how osuka Village went from atop town read to below osuka. A player backing in the 1100 you said was being over townread

It feels dumb citing just one post but 1518 made me reevaluate my townread on IV. Recent his readlists doesn't feel as it did when I posted 1173.
Osuka in the first quoted post was null for me (that was an observation because I was struggling to see how people had stronger reads than a lean on him at the time), but since then he's been attacked several times for bad reasons which I think makes him likely to be town.

[PlusJOYED]

PlusJOYED is not solving, remember how they consolidated who voted who yesterday? easy way to get towncred

and now they're OMGUS-ing me

and they are just stuck on iv while refusing to consider anything other than TvT for everything else which is TMI

are you fucking with me here? Not that I really care, but I've done more to solve than you have AND you're the one who brings up meta the most tbh, while just hoping on whatever wagon is currently popular. This reaction legit looks like scum shelly from the last 2 games.

[shellyc]

let me explain my plus trajectory in more detail

at start of game I liked plus, early readslist and a TR on me. but as the game went on plus just got stuck on teacher / iv / NDMath and they're not doing anything.

they aren't trying to scumhunt tbh. they're trying to find a mislim which is iv and they just want to "reflect" their read on me which is fence sitting

they flip flop on their reads and it isn't logical. they appear to solve, but aren't doing anything with their solve.

I feel a different *vibe*. Feels like they're pushing an agenda by calling everything TvT. I think this might be TMI.

2027 proves town!plus can act like this but I just don't see town!plus here. As the day goes on PlusJoy just tries to navigate the thread with a survivalistic mindset.

the only thing that makes me doubt is the vagueclaim

[Saudade]

Hi frens

[PlusJOYED]

i think me vs scum!shelly happens tomorrow
scum!shelly did this in 2023
scum!shelly did this in doggos
now shelly is pulling the same crap but the odds of getting scum!shelly that frequently are low.

[shellyc]

are you fucking with me here? Not that I really care, but I've done more to solve than you have AND you're the one who brings up meta the most tbh, while just hoping on whatever wagon is currently popular. This reaction legit looks like scum shelly from the last 2 games.

ok what have you done

like i don't wagon hop I townflipped on iv because of the reaction and you're just stubbornly stuck with scum!iv which isn't protown

scum!you shading me while not casting a vote or intent to vote or anything. setting me up for a mislim tomorrow.

[NDMath]

I'll look at plusjoy tomorrow, I agree with plus's logic that if IV is town I want to get it done with since it's gonna be hard to change enough people's minds (mine included) to not elim him later on.

VOTE: innocent villager

L-1

[shellyc]

Like I'm tired of rolling scum I think my scumplay has been integrated into my townplay

I rolled scum in 2023 2026 and 2027 in a fortnight

[shellyc]

if this will flip scum I'm not going to be very surprised but i think it's town!iv being frustrated

of course if iv thinks this is for the greater good, i may switch wagons

[shellyc]

plus if you're super interested in town!me meta read 2025 but I got limmed d1 so yeah town!me is wack and worse than scum!me

[shellyc]

when is deadline

[shellyc]

oh nvm it's in 16 hours

I will hammer any vote if needed for obvious reasons we dont want no lim

[Saudade]

Imagine lynching iv over kerset teeeeheeee

[PlusJOYED]

let me explain my plus trajectory in more detail

at start of game I liked plus, early readslist and a TR on me. but as the game went on plus just got stuck on teacher / iv / NDMath and they're not doing anything.

they aren't trying to scumhunt tbh. they're trying to find a mislim which is iv and they just want to "reflect" their read on me which is fence sitting

they flip flop on their reads and it isn't logical. they appear to solve, but aren't doing anything with their solve.

I feel a different *vibe*. Feels like they're pushing an agenda by calling everything TvT. I think this might be TMI.

2027 proves town!plus can act like this but I just don't see town!plus here. As the day goes on PlusJoy just tries to navigate the thread with a survivalistic mindset.

the only thing that makes me doubt is the vagueclaim

1. im pretty confident in my solve, iv literally scumslipped so we should have flipped him right there but mena fucked it up
2. TR on you is NAI
3. I've explained why this is TvT but people seem to ignore me. I'm pretty confident in my reads
4. iv isn't a mislim. If I wanted a mislim I would have hammered Osuka, even if me and osuka were both scum it would have been better to kill them right there
5.i flip flop my reads AND im stuck in my reads? This is hella hypocritical. You're misreping me here and you know it, this is a huge red flag
6. I've done nothing to lamist really at all, why would I defend osuka when it would be way eaiser for me to join the wagon

Shelly looks reeeeeealllly sus here and I liked their opening but their vca and reasoning look really bad here

[Saudade]

Im done playing this day tbh just here to shitpost

[PlusJOYED]

someone hammer iv ffs

[shellyc]

let me explain my plus trajectory in more detail

at start of game I liked plus, early readslist and a TR on me. but as the game went on plus just got stuck on teacher / iv / NDMath and they're not doing anything.

they aren't trying to scumhunt tbh. they're trying to find a mislim which is iv and they just want to "reflect" their read on me which is fence sitting

they flip flop on their reads and it isn't logical. they appear to solve, but aren't doing anything with their solve.

I feel a different *vibe*. Feels like they're pushing an agenda by calling everything TvT. I think this might be TMI.

2027 proves town!plus can act like this but I just don't see town!plus here. As the day goes on PlusJoy just tries to navigate the thread with a survivalistic mindset.

the only thing that makes me doubt is the vagueclaim

1. im pretty confident in my solve, iv literally scumslipped so we should have flipped him right there but mena fucked it up

as explained i can see town!iv doing that

2. TR on you is NAI

I see it as a potential pocket, especially as my towngame is weaker than my scumgame

3. I've explained why this is TvT but people seem to ignore me. I'm pretty confident in my reads

unfort your reads are probably wrong. if town are tvt-ing why are so many wagons forming? scum is def involved from VCA perspective

4. iv isn't a mislim. If I wanted a mislim I would have hammered Osuka, even if me and osuka were both scum it would have been better to kill them right there

Hammering osuka would make you obvscum

5.i flip flop my reads AND im stuck in my reads? This is hella hypocritical. You're misreping me here and you know it, this is a huge red flag

You're stuck in some of your reads and flip flopping in others which makes you look worse

6. I've done nothing to lamist really at all, why would I defend osuka when it would be way eaiser for me to join the wagon

joining the wagon is a much scumtell

Shelly looks reeeeeealllly sus here and I liked their opening but their vca and reasoning look really bad here

i don't wagon hop as scum tbh, self meta wise (not game related) I would say I wagon hop more as scum
and your defense is basically a strawman

[shellyc]

I kinda messed up the formatting

bold is mine

[shellyc]

plusjoy regarding tvts

do you think we are TvT'ing?

[shellyc]

Shelly looks reeeeeealllly sus here and I liked their opening but their vca and reasoning look really bad here

this is fence sitting tbh

preparing to say "I WASNT SURE ABOUT THEM" when I flip green

[Ydrasse]

what the hell is going on

[shellyc]

welcome back, my biggest TR

I'm bickering with scum!plus

[Saudade]

Bicker all u vote but pls vote in osuka kerser