Open 795 | Noir | Game Over

[the worst]

vote count 2.13

PenguinPower (2): NorwegianboyEE, Bambi Jay
Tayl0r Swift (2): bob3141, ManWithNoName
Lost (2): Tayl0r Swift, Isis
GeniusGamer (2): MURDERCAT, PenguinPower
Bambi Jay (1): GeniusGamer
ManWithNoName (1): Not_Mafia

Not voting: Lost

Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-23 08:00:00)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.


mod notes:
- ManWithNoName is v/la hunting outlaws and/or in-laws from Thursday til Saturday.
- quack.

[MURDERCAT]

Isis I thought we were town together but now you are sketching me out with your bob read

[Isis]

His first two posts felt a little bit like some narration-tell and his play today has been NAI to me. It's only a lean but it's fun to say "bobman bad". But then it's less fun when my phone autocorrect botches it

Are we town together? I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

[MURDERCAT]

I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

The other two being? Are you concerned about the universe where you are scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

The other two being? Are you concerned about the universe where you are scum?

i think the third universe is one where you're both dead and this is just a dream.

[MURDERCAT]

It was inception the whole time.

While you are here taylor vote gamer

[Isis]

I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

The other two being? Are you concerned about the universe where you are scum?

I miscounted universes. As long as I'm not vaporeon you will be o.k.

[Isis]

GeniusGamer might be the most I've wanted to remove a slot independent of its scumminess. But I don't actually know how scummy he is. Is there any post that sticks out to you, MURDER?
I think I remember one I didn't like but I forgot which one

[MURDERCAT]

Sure I can make a full case in the morning

[Tayl0r Swift]

Sure I can make a full case in the morning

ill decide whether to vote pending your case. atm i see genius as just quirky, and not very scumhunty. but thats kinda where this game is at atm... quirky and very not scumhunty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: lost

Murder the non-voter?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Come on guys, NM said GG was a distraction, yet here we are.

[MURDERCAT]

Alright, I’ve finally managed to read through the game so far. First of all, what

is

hypoclaiming exactly?

mudrecat gets a townlock

Woah there. Just because Murder Cat says they only care about finding scum, you’re convinced that they’re town? That’s pretty odd if you ask me.

Also,

what is Not_Mafia doing

? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen. First claiming Jester, which isn’t even in the setup, then claiming mafia in a serious manner (well, serious relative to the rest of their posts)? VOTE: Not_Mafia

In here is a lot of stuff talking about NM meta

(Yay, pagetop)

So anyway, this sort of thing is exactly why I’m voting for Not_Mafia. It’s going to take a lot to change my opinion at this point.

Rather than engaging with it, GG is just tunneling NM.

Yikes, lots to catch up on.

So... I still think N_M should be eliminated. If this is the best he can do, we should just vote him out. He didn’t even give Dong a chance to claim or defend themself before hammering.

If Not_Mafia can’t contribute enough, I’m going to vote for him every day until he either convinces me that he isn’t the scummiest person in the game or is voted out.

Just because Not_Mafia apparently plays like this every game doesn’t mean it’s any less scummy. If anybody else acted like this, I bet they’d be eliminated way faster than this

It does mean that though. Otherwise, he would be scum in every game. He's not scum in every game.

He may or may not be scum, that much is true.

But whatever he’s doing, it’s certainly not playing Mafia in a pro-town way. There is no point in allowing him to remain in the game. He is the scummiest person here right now. If you can convince me that someone is scummier than him, I’ll be happy to vote for them.

This is weird backpedalling to me, does noob town say this while tunneling? You are so convinced NM is scum now all of a sudden you are voting for them for policy reasons? Is he scum or not? To me, noob town here concludes that Isis is scum protecting NM.

So who’s your suggested target for second elimination Geniusgamer?

Either Not_Mafia or Tayl0r Swift, preferably Not_Mafia. They’re the scummiest players so far.

This taylor read never had and still hasn't had a justification

NM could be eliminated every single time he lolhammered and he would still take every lolhammer available in all his games

Well... too bad, I guess. I mean, if someone refuses to play the game, they get the consequences.

GG who do you think is scum with NM?

I’m not sure. Though I do think it could be Tayl0r or NorwegianBoyEE. For now, my vote remains on the person I am the most convinced is scum.

In here I pressure GG for tunneling and not contributing.

Are you going to deliberately underperform to prove a point of independence?

Yes. Whatcha gonna do about it?

I’ll be back for you, Not_Mafia. But I’m afraid I’ve just found a scummier person.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

You just admitted that you’re

intentionally

underperforming without a good reason, and it doesn’t sound like you’re joking.. That’s the kind of thing scum does, though why you would admit it is a mystery to me... actually, maybe you’re partners with N_M, and you guys think you’ll cruise through the game with a lack of contribution due to bias towards you from other players!

Actually, that last part is really unlikely. I doubt that you’re partners.

You start contributing

or else

.

Literally this bambi claim is from nowhere. Also, this is the thing that is worse than the lolhammer? To me this was a reaction to my pressure.

GG who is your biggest town read?

Multiple places like this where GG has a chance to interact and instead chooses to tunnel or get into arguments.

[MURDERCAT]

*deep breath*

[MURDERCAT]

Look at how much more game talk there is in the newbie iso: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11984311

[PenguinPower]

Come on guys, NM said GG was a distraction, yet here we are.

Why are you putting stock in what nm has to say?

[Isis]

MURDERCAT if you were scum it would break my heart

[Isis]

you wouldn't do that right?!?!?!

[MURDERCAT]

MURDERCAT if you were scum it would break my heart

<3

[GeniusGamer]

Look at how much more game talk there is in the newbie iso: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11984311

Again, what did I say about meta?

[Bambi Jay]

MURDERCAT if you were scum it would break my heart

you wouldn't do that right?!?!?!

Cat's will ALWAYS betray you. Particularly Murderous ones.

[Not_Mafia]

Come on guys, NM said GG was a distraction, yet here we are.

Why are you putting stock in what nm has to say?

Wow, of all the things to respond to and you choose this, I am wounded

[Not_Mafia]

I don't want to elim MURDERCAT anymore

[PenguinPower]

Come on guys, NM said GG was a distraction, yet here we are.

Why are you putting stock in what nm has to say?

Wow, of all the things to respond to and you choose this, I am wounded

You should be proud to have been chosen.

[GeniusGamer]

Alright, I’ve finally managed to read through the game so far. First of all, what

is

hypoclaiming exactly?

mudrecat gets a townlock

Woah there. Just because Murder Cat says they only care about finding scum, you’re convinced that they’re town? That’s pretty odd if you ask me.

Also,

what is Not_Mafia doing

? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen. First claiming Jester, which isn’t even in the setup, then claiming mafia in a serious manner (well, serious relative to the rest of their posts)? VOTE: Not_Mafia

In here is a lot of stuff talking about NM meta

(Yay, pagetop)

So anyway, this sort of thing is exactly why I’m voting for Not_Mafia. It’s going to take a lot to change my opinion at this point.

Rather than engaging with it, GG is just tunneling NM.

Yikes, lots to catch up on.

So... I still think N_M should be eliminated. If this is the best he can do, we should just vote him out. He didn’t even give Dong a chance to claim or defend themself before hammering.

If Not_Mafia can’t contribute enough, I’m going to vote for him every day until he either convinces me that he isn’t the scummiest person in the game or is voted out.

Just because Not_Mafia apparently plays like this every game doesn’t mean it’s any less scummy. If anybody else acted like this, I bet they’d be eliminated way faster than this

It does mean that though. Otherwise, he would be scum in every game. He's not scum in every game.

He may or may not be scum, that much is true.

But whatever he’s doing, it’s certainly not playing Mafia in a pro-town way. There is no point in allowing him to remain in the game. He is the scummiest person here right now. If you can convince me that someone is scummier than him, I’ll be happy to vote for them.

This is weird backpedalling to me, does noob town say this while tunneling? You are so convinced NM is scum now all of a sudden you are voting for them for policy reasons? Is he scum or not? To me, noob town here concludes that Isis is scum protecting NM.

So who’s your suggested target for second elimination Geniusgamer?

Either Not_Mafia or Tayl0r Swift, preferably Not_Mafia. They’re the scummiest players so far.

This taylor read never had and still hasn't had a justification

NM could be eliminated every single time he lolhammered and he would still take every lolhammer available in all his games

Well... too bad, I guess. I mean, if someone refuses to play the game, they get the consequences.

GG who do you think is scum with NM?

I’m not sure. Though I do think it could be Tayl0r or NorwegianBoyEE. For now, my vote remains on the person I am the most convinced is scum.

In here I pressure GG for tunneling and not contributing.

Are you going to deliberately underperform to prove a point of independence?

Yes. Whatcha gonna do about it?

I’ll be back for you, Not_Mafia. But I’m afraid I’ve just found a scummier person.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

You just admitted that you’re

intentionally

underperforming without a good reason, and it doesn’t sound like you’re joking.. That’s the kind of thing scum does, though why you would admit it is a mystery to me... actually, maybe you’re partners with N_M, and you guys think you’ll cruise through the game with a lack of contribution due to bias towards you from other players!

Actually, that last part is really unlikely. I doubt that you’re partners.

You start contributing

or else

.

Literally this bambi claim is from nowhere. Also, this is the thing that is worse than the lolhammer? To me this was a reaction to my pressure.

GG who is your biggest town read?

Multiple places like this where GG has a chance to interact and instead chooses to tunnel or get into arguments.

What do you mean, “NM meta”. I don’t use meta and certainly didn’t use or allude to using it here. Also, it’s impossible to be certain that someone is scum in this setup. I don’t

know

that N_M is scum, I

think

he’s scum, as he is likely to be scum. It’s basic semantics.

So how is my scumread on Bambi out of nowhere? She’s already been scummy (my exact sources will be specified right after I finish this post), and that post made it especially clear that she’s likely to be scum.

Did you not read my earlier posts? Most of what it in this post has already been stated. Take, for example, when I said that arguments about alignment are the heart and soul of mafia. X trying to convince everyone that Y is scum, while Y defends themself or tries to prove that Z is scum.

Oh, and your claim that I’m tunneling N_M? You think it’s tunneling because I use every other post of his as evidence towards his scumminess. This usually looks like tunneling. Except that every other post of Not_Mafia’s is scummy! Therefore, my targeting of him is entirely justified. Not to mention that I’ve expressed a couple of other scumreads.

I love (yes, I’m using the right word here; this is very enjoyable) how nobody here likes me. It’s like you know you’re wrong and hold a grudge against me for it. I’ve backed up all my arguments, and all of them have been game-related (except for that one with Bambi, which she started). So what exactly is wrong with what I’m doing? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.