Mini Normal 2166 | Dog Show Champions | Game Over

[Alchemist21]

^Does Iconeum usually lurk as scum? Or is that just a general lurkadurp scumread?

I think I just had a game with scum him where he was rather quiet until pressed on it
He says he has weekend V/LA but it's not the weekend so that's not an excuse rn

which game was that?

i do have standing weekend vla's, but that's only saturday and sundays

i'm so ashamed...

it looks like echo did this in his last game as well

don't meta dive me
if i wasn't already voting you i'd vote you just for that

Do you seriously have a problem with people trying to get meta on you?

Unrelated but I see Ico’s posting now so I’ll unvote.

UNVOTE:

[Alchemist21]

if i start out by playing like a dip shit then i don't have to explain myself to people which is significantly less work for me a

How often does that actually work out for you instead of you just getting voted out.

[Mizzytastic]

Absolute confidence of only two scum and being aware that four scum doesn't make sense in the same line. DA FUCK? I mean two scum is way more likely than 4 with how scumsided an even game is but really?

Last 12 player game I read the players set up speccing considered 3 scum or 2 + traitor, though that was one game about a year ago.

No nap, sleep comes soon though, I can feel it.

Yeah, definitely tunneled, still doesn't feel agendary unless they were both in on it. Mixed but on average positive feelings lead me to TvT for now.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: alchemist

what's AI about me not being here?
i don't get the 'low post' reference, because i wasn't low posting

and then you reference a game where i low posted, but was town and conclude i'm probs scum here then?

or am i misreading that?

You’re misreading it. See my post to Tris before you got here.

[SirCakez]

I really dislike that Gamma immediately attacked me when I said that I agreed with Nero's push on him

[Alchemist21]

but here I just felt like making a joke about it.

11 sorta makes me think this wasn't a joke.

but also

VOTE: echovision
Serious vote of my own.

you aren't using your words so either you are scum that's pretending like they are doing things by throwing down a forceful naked vote or you are massively unhelpful town.

I was joking about it because I wanted to move past it
And like, I was trying to pressure EV to not be rando but that didn't work it seems
still feel like voting there since I don't really know why EV is doing what he's doing and it's not a thing that I can see waved away by a "weird =/= scum" line

if i start out by playing like a dip shit then i don't have to explain myself to people which is significantly less work for me and it's so fantastic
i can just read the thread and have some fun by extending my self-rvs until i find something to bite on

Or we can vote you out for deliberately obfuscating your motives

See Gamma knows what’s up.

[Mizzytastic]

Is that a misrep considering they are talking about slips in the first place.

I could see that being the case. Unless something drastic happens by the end of the page it's where I'm voting I think.

SirCakez doesn't feel parroty to me


I'm surprised to find Nero is voting Echo. Really doesn't feel that way reading the game. Does seem like a nice place to vote tho

VOTE: Echovision

[Alchemist21]

I was thinking that scum wouldn't forget that they hadn't moved their vote.

Not really sure that’s a good reason to be Townreading someone.

[Alchemist21]

and uncommitted

Define uncommitted here because I don’t know what you mean by that.

[Alchemist21]

there's a 75% chance that the two i named town are town and those are some pretty good odds

actually this is even worse math because odds aren't the same for two people because odds multiply but asjdks math

Never apologize for correcting someone’s math.

[Alchemist21]

I don’t only vote if I’m highly confident about a read. That’s the common course on my homesite, but I’ve played so much here vs. over there that I’m more inclined to apply my vote in aims of sorting people.

Ok but is there a reason you’re still choosing Ico at this point?

[Alchemist21]

Anybody think Echo is leaning on their playstyle here to avoid actually scumhunting

I think everyone is getting that vibe from Echo. At least 3 people have called him on his playstyle.

[Alchemist21]

Liking Nero here this Gamma push is good

I’m actually liking Gamma and Nero both for Town. I think this is the Nero/Gamma clash we were warned about.

[Alchemist21]

I know I’m chaining a lot of posts together but y’all added 5 pages since yesterday.

[Alchemist21]

Is alch even trying?

I started a new job Tuesday that keeps me busy. Tonight and this weekend will be the first time I’ve been able to really put in more effort.

Hopefully my weekday activity will improve as I get used to the new job and don’t come home as tired every day.

[SirCakez]

Alch has your Icon opinion changed now that he's here?

[Alchemist21]

Alch has your Icon opinion changed now that he's here?

Thinking Ico is more Towny than not. I’m liking most of their posts about Gamma but I kinda need them to explain 215 a bit more.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anybody think Echo is leaning on their playstyle here to avoid actually scumhunting

Liking Nero here this Gamma push is good

Have any reads that don’t just look like parroting others?

You're only pulling this out because you're mad I'm agreeing with Nero

So I actually like Datisi for his awareness of that.

Are we really keeping it this simple?

This early yeah

No, it’s the fact you have not expressed much reads of your own up to now it seems. The EV push is pretty popular and you’ve only stood behind Nero when it comes to pushing me

[Nero Cain]

cakez, what was it that you liked about my posting/gamma push?

[Gamma Emerald]

I really dislike that Gamma immediately attacked me when I said that I agreed with Nero's push on him

Nope. I know you commented on that at least once

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t only vote if I’m highly confident about a read. That’s the common course on my homesite, but I’ve played so much here vs. over there that I’m more inclined to apply my vote in aims of sorting people.

Ok but is there a reason you’re still choosing Ico at this point?

I don’t feel like my concerns have been fully addressed
Icon also started posting in Kids With Lungs in response to pressure D2, so I don’t think becoming more active in response to pressure here is particularly Town-indicative. I think you probably took your vote off too early.

[Nero Cain]

you’ve only stood behind Nero when it comes to pushing me

So what? I mean, if Cake is scum and you are town then sure he could just be following me around but @ the same time why can't he just be town that agrees with me?

Like, you are on his case for not pushing you until I said anything about you but you could say that about anyone that agrees with someone and that feels a little discredity and catch-all.

No, it’s the fact you have not expressed much reads of your own up to now it seems. The EV push is pretty popular and you’ve only stood behind Nero when it comes to pushing me

this is also pretty inacurate I think.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think part of what Im seeing from SC is a lack of actual towny drive. Like, when I agree wit JV someone as Town, I don’t just say “I agree with that” and leave it, I actually aim to develop the conversation with my own thoughts and analysis, seeking to expand the discussion with my own perspective. He’s not adding anything, he’s just stating reads, and the fact they’re reads others have expressed just make me trust it less.

[SirCakez]

Which is why Alch's wagon attempt sucked.

I strongly disagree with this. Ico normally gets scum read so I could easily envision a scum Ico not wanting to post in fear that he gets scum read. He's (Alch) also correct when he says that Ico can react to his wagon when he gets back. I'm also sympathetic b/c town me has been pushed for voting a scummy inactive slot. No, he's actually taking initiative and that's + town. If anyone is scum here its Gamma who basically calls Ico scum in 159 but doesn't vote until Alch votes. Why is your focus on Alch but you are ignoring Gamma?

This
And some of your reasoning is a bit nitpicky but Gamma's reaction has been bad

[SirCakez]

I think part of what Im seeing from SC is a lack of actual towny drive. Like, when I agree wit JV someone as Town, I don’t just say “I agree with that” and leave it, I actually aim to develop the conversation with my own thoughts and analysis, seeking to expand the discussion with my own perspective. He’s not adding anything, he’s just stating reads, and the fact they’re reads others have expressed just make me trust it less.

This is just not true
I was a frontrunner on the tris and Alch wagons and my tris read has developed in convo with others