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[Ythan]

I think BS is the one I suspected not Nora. But newbies so w/e them both for now.

[xRECKONERx]

@VPB: You asked where I was and I gave you my thoughts on the wagon and yesterday etc and you never acknowledged or responded to it. whassup

[xRECKONERx]

also i have words for nora's shit "read" on me but ive been drinking and dont want to effort right now, ill effort tomorrow

[Ythan]

BS isn't really a newbie though so slot that in in place of Nora for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

The annie shot is also weird af. I'm assuming scum wanted to get rid of a hydra, but confirming a town slot on a misyeet is dumb. Either that or there may have been more town than expected on that wagon. Impossible to say.

Ythan and Haschel are probably the worst people on the wagon...though I'll admit I'm giving Gamma some leeway because he's a noob and chkflip's warning. Still, their vote is also bad.

Doctor Pepper, I'd like some reads from you.

AGar, I need you to be town here, and I need some help.

WHERE IS MY RECKONER?????

The hell??? I’m not a noob. I’m insulted you think I am actually

[DoctorPepper]

I'll admit, Dr. Pepper was pinging me.

I do have a hard time believing the entire speed wagon was town, so AGar's list really can't be completely correct imo. I don't find Noraa's inability to read Reck particularly scummy. Just seems like some newbing tbh.

100% at least 2 scum on, 1 off

[Ythan]

There's a player in this game from 2003 so maybe it's relative.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a slight SR on reck

SPICY

let's get into that

Honestly I think there’s reason to suspect some of the old guard players here, VPB mentioned they kill likely being to pop off a hydra, which does point to people like UT who have gone on record saying they dislike hydrae
Though there’s also the fact that’s such a specific suggestion I also consider it possible VPB let loose a bit of nightkill TMI

[Gamma Emerald]

There's a player in this game from 2003 so maybe it's relative.

I just earned an award for outstanding play on my homesite so like
Getting called noob after THAT feels like getting shot in the chest

[Ythan]

You mean wifom?

@307, very end of it

[Noraa]

We should yeet from {DrPepper/Noraa/Tn}

Why noraa over someone like Ythan?

I'll always prioritize active behavior that I find scummy over passive behavior. Noraa's entrance wrt IIoA reeks of "Oh hey, I found something I can whip together a stance on that's bound to be bulletproof! Let's roll!" because absent context, Reck's post *was* a waste and IIoA. But it's obv not because of context of the game. Ythan is being what I remember Ythan being and while it's not particularly *helpful*, I'm also generally loathe to just go "Well he's posting minimally and not doing super town things, yeet him" when there's other players who are actively doing things that I find to be advancing a scum wincon.

Aaand since I've talked more about the other two players than the one I'm voting:
DrPepper I find a bit more dangerous because he's trying to turn powerlurking D1 into "I now have a stance that the wagon on Day 1 was

bad

." Like we all can use our goddamned eyes and see the chk wagon was bad with the hindsight of a flip. Posturing your D2 play around broadly taking down the wagon because the D1 flip was town is an easy way to blend in and look town while not having to actively really do any heavy lifting. The takes are prefabricated for you, you can't be wrong on them.

I don't agree with this read on me. I read thru the thread and the only two players that had even the slightest scummy vibes, I pointed out. I agree my use of the term IIoa on Reck's post wasn't the hottest but I also said in one of my first posts that I wasn't sure if it was considered IIoa since it was so early in the game. The second person that I sussed was Ythan. I think my slight SR on him is reasonable. His playstyle is a little bit scummy and although my posts often aren't too helpful, I feel his contain more or less the same amount of content as mine. I do not recognize anyone from this list of players so I can't tell what is a scum tell and what is just pure play style. Besides my catch up is there anything else that makes for a scumread?

I think BS is the one I suspected not Nora. But newbies so w/e them both for now.

Ik their name is brighteningskies but dude u really couldn't think of anything better than BS? Like Bright, Brightening, Skies, Sky, idk whatever is better than BS -______-

[Gamma Emerald]

he knew he was going down and he was desperate to prevent anybody from being connected to him.

So you were convinced he was scum, but rather than forcing the day longer to maybe build some of those connections, you hammered before several people have much comment on it at all?

I do like this line of questioning, I don’t know anything about Haschel but I’d guess he’s not one to typically act rashly? He’s more active in like the LSG section which I don’t do anything in really
This is where I’d ask others for info but the people I’d most expect it from are the least likely to provide it

Anyway, I really don’t see why Haschel wouldn’t want the less active people to take stances on chkflip, if he thought chkflip was scum that would be a pretty good way to try and sort some less sortable slots. Could also be that Haschel wanted to provide his inactive buddies some cover by stopping discussion.

[Ythan]

I'll try Skies!

[Gamma Emerald]

You mean wifom?

@307, very end of it

Uh no? I tend to have an inclination to tease the actual motives for a nightkill when I’m scum. I could be projecting my own personality but I would assume I’m not the only one who does that.

[Ythan]

Would you mind restating 307 in different words please?

[AGar]

I do have a hard time believing the entire speed wagon was town, so AGar's list really can't be completely correct imo.

Yeah but no betting man's ever gone 100%.

60%+ is all you need for +$$$.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not sure how anyone expects anyone to have reads worth a damn on page 10 given the current meta heavily favors 100 page day 1's.

I find 100 page day 1s worse for town’s chances than 10 or less page D1s

[Untrod Tripod]

I have a slight SR on reck

SPICY

let's get into that

Honestly I think there’s reason to suspect some of the old guard players here, VPB mentioned they kill likely being to pop off a hydra, which does point to people like UT who have gone on record saying they dislike hydrae
Though there’s also the fact that’s such a specific suggestion I also consider it possible VPB let loose a bit of nightkill TMI

I'll admit that I hate hydra 90% of the time, but this one wasn't being annoying yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Would you mind restating 307 in different words please?

I think Annie Edison dying points to somebody who dislikes hydras potentially being scum. Fringe chance of VPB having slipped in the true motive.
PEdit: okay then

[Ythan]

Where is UT hates hydrae info from?

[Gamma Emerald]

There are legit 3 people in this game who the mod has posted more than. Let that sink in.

Non-low key garbage contribution squad right here:

AGar
Gamma Emerald
brighteningskies
DoctorPepper
tn5421
Ythan

Annie Edison was part of that pool of “posted less than the mod”, which makes me curious why someone opted for that kill.

[Gamma Emerald]

Where is UT hates hydrae info from?

My first game with UT was as a hydra and he was very anti-hydra that game
He also reaffirmed that belief in another game, as well as here just recently

[Ythan]

Would you mind restating 307 in different words please?

I think Annie Edison dying points to somebody who dislikes hydras potentially being scum. Fringe chance of VPB having slipped in the true motive.
PEdit: okay then

Can you explain what you're saying about vpb here a little further?

[Gamma Emerald]

his play was newb-town
he was yeeted for being newb-town
thus it is a valid interpretation to state he was yeeted for not being part of the old boys club of old and angry mafia players

It’s honestly funny how wrong this is, I have only been on site for like 4 years, with like only half of that being time with active participation, and I managed to know chkflip was old guard
Though I ALSO understand this because of the fiasco with the coldheartedking account

[Untrod Tripod]

Where is UT hates hydrae info from?

I usually fucking hate hydras because they tend to spam the thread and make it uninhabitable for intelligent life