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Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:16 am

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On the other hand we had you teacher

A slot that claimed informed towny - informed that scum have rolestopper


A slot that when lynched is no different to vt being lynched if town.

A role claim strains credibility.

At worst it would have given us hard info on what scum do have.

A slot that claims they go into playign scum. As if they didnt know there role.


100 times out of 100 for those facts alone. Was always the better lynch
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Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:18 am

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why would town need to be informed if scum have a rolestopper.

And informed is more often given to scum than town.

Only time Ive seen an informed townie was when they were a cop. And they were informed that there was doc but not what alignment. As both a warning not to play follow the cop.
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Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am

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In post 3397, bob3141 wrote:
In post 3393, teacher wrote:
In post 3389, bob3141 wrote:The only reason that any one could give is damage limitation to avoid a flash lynch hitting a town pr. And at the point you swapped your read there was still a few days to deadline
False, again. The quoted vote was appr 16 hours to deadline. Are you now just trying to get Mena to defend you with the why tell such easily verifiable lies?
Now stop being childish. You know when some is scum, its when all they can come back with is "oh no your lying"


few definitions.

1.
a small number of.
"may I ask a few questions?"
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2.
used to emphasize how small a number of people or things is.
"he had few friends"


It doesnt matter if day one ends mid day. Its still 1-2 days


He choose to vote IV, He choose not to push for any alternative lynch. He didnt say oh at worst IV is VT. He said oh now i think he is scum. He didnt say im voting to avoid no lynch. Which we were still a fair bit from
Really man, just admit error.

English usage:
"a few" -- more than two, less than several.
"few" (without a) -- emphasizing smallness.

You said "a few". It was, in fact, less than one. And that is not a "fair bit" away, especially when people are randomly starting wagons on slots that havent been the focus all day. I was certainly deadline paranoid, and I voted before him.
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Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:24 am

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In post 3398, bob3141 wrote:And who would think scum would still be self voting 1-2 days away from deadline. When they could simply vote osuka and claim that although he though osuka had good chance of flipping town. He knows for sure he is town.

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And it wasnt at the time that the lynch was 100% decided. So again still pleanty of time on the clock
Again, 16 hours =/2 days. Im going to assume your kind of new to MS, and come from a universe with 48hr days. Here, people actually go whole days without logging on.
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Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:34 am

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So its error how. what happened to your childish oh no look bob must be lying about DMath.

Trying to avoid talking about Dmath scummy flip flops on the osuka and IV slots.



Deadline on friday. And when all the talk was going on thurdays. I call that few days.


Do you realy expect any player to exactly rember when the deadline was? Past that they were last on thursday and that it would be some time friday.
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Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:38 am

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From Thursday to Friday is one day, at least on my calendar.

Thats also the second time youve called me childish. Fuck off with the name calling. . You said something that was factually untrue. That = lying.
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Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:42 am

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You realy are trying hard to spin this.


You go straight away checking exact time of ndmath vote and then triple checking deadline time. When i left for the nigth due to work it was 1 day plus. Not long after dmath votes. Do you real expect anyone to remember the exact number. Other than teh fact they need to be on friday to check
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Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:46 am

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No, I knew the deadline time by heart because I was paranoid we wouldnt hit it. I clicked to follow YOUR QUOTE and looked at the timestamp.

But let me get this straight, youre now trying to shade me for:
  • NOT taking the time to look up rolestopper, when I thought I knew the meaning.
  • TAKING the time to look up the facts on your post.
yea man, Im the one trying to spin.
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Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:47 am

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In post 3393, teacher wrote:
In post 3389, bob3141 wrote:The only reason that any one could give is damage limitation to avoid a flash lynch hitting a town pr. And at the point you swapped your read there was still a few days to deadline
False, again. The quoted vote was appr 16 hours to deadline. Are you now just trying to get Mena to defend you with the why tell such easily verifiable lies?
Hmm? What does that have to do with him trying to get me to defend him?
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Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:49 am

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Its a lie. Last time he lied (about me having experience with rolestopper), you defended him and avoided voting on the slot your biggest townread was driving by saying why would he tell such easily verifiable lies. I wanted to inject your name into the conversation to see if he would respond to that or ignore it.
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Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:50 am

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In post 3398, bob3141 wrote:When they could simply vote osuka and claim that although he though osuka had good chance of flipping town. He knows for sure he is town.

Only a yogurt


And it wasnt at the time that the lynch was 100% decided. So again still pleanty of time on the clock
Bob can you run me through this pls I’m not sure what you’re saying
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Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:51 am

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like tbh I think the hostility of bob towards teacher just incriminates them even more

teacher's reaction is quite geniune and i buy the informed townie claim so bob is just bullshitting

idk why bob just does not accept that teacher made a mistake because upon reread, the reaction seems to show real town emotion

bob's confusing shading of teacher gives me heavy scumpings
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Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:52 am

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In post 3400, bob3141 wrote:A role claim strains credibility.

At worst it would have given us hard info on what scum do have.

A slot that claims they go into playign scum. As if they didnt know there role.


100 times out of 100 for those facts alone. Was always the better lynch
I’m also not really following this at all, sorry bob

Could you rephrase for me pls
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Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:54 am

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In post 3405, teacher wrote:From Thursday to Friday is one day, at least on my calendar.

Thats also the second time youve called me childish. Fuck off with the name calling. . You said something that was factually untrue. That = lying.
are they two different words ?


saying somethign is childish isnt name calling. Its a description of someone actions. You resorting so quickly to just shouting he is lying is childish. Im not saying you are chidish person. Just the action. And its somethign scum sorts to far more than town.



And this is thing it doesnt change my change my fundamental point that there was plenty of time left. Even if it was as short as 17 hours. I have no idea when the deadline in friday so why are you so quick to cry wolf.

Why so quick to assume that it couldnt be due to last time i saw a vote count with deadline it was 1 day plus. Hence from my perspective in terms of speech it's always going to be 2 days.



The thing is this is all on the back of me pointing out that dmath kept flip flopping. Teacher you seem to be trying real hard to defend him
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Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 3409, teacher wrote:Its a lie. Last time he lied (about me having experience with rolestopper), you defended him and avoided voting on the slot your biggest townread was driving by saying why would he tell such easily verifiable lies. I wanted to inject your name into the conversation to see if he would respond to that or ignore it.
Oh, right

Errr idk I still see it as kind of bold to tell a completely unsubstantiated and verifiable lie as scum and idk if that’s within bob’s range? Which I think is normally p geared towards solid play and eliminating PR threats
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Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:57 am

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I think saudade kill is probably implicative for kerset and maybe to a lesser extent ydrasse

Or it’s an attempt to frame kerset and to get us to flip the doc and save scum a NK

Any chance someone wants to go through the VCs and colour them in for me?
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Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:58 am

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Although I’m not sure scum!ydrasse would hammer there outside of being partnered with osuka/maybe plusjoy bc she was probably meant to be the deepwolf if scum at that point and hammering is throwing that away for no reason
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Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:58 am

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@kerset who did you protect last night?
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Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 3415, Menalque wrote:Any chance someone wants to go through the VCs and colour them in for me?
I'll do it mena
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Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 3411, shellyc wrote:like tbh I think the hostility of bob towards teacher just incriminates them even more
Why tho

And why does bob read as faked hostility but teacher reads as genuine

I think they both read quite genuine tonally
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Post Post #3420 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 3416, Menalque wrote:Although I’m not sure scum!ydrasse would hammer there outside of being partnered with osuka/maybe plusjoy bc she was probably meant to be the deepwolf if scum at that point and hammering is throwing that away for no reason
ydra hammering that is TSTBS IMO unless their partner is in a super good position
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Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 am

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Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 3419, Menalque wrote:
In post 3411, shellyc wrote:like tbh I think the hostility of bob towards teacher just incriminates them even more
Why tho

And why does bob read as faked hostility but teacher reads as genuine

I think they both read quite genuine tonally
bob was directly hostile towards teacher at daystart, and i feel like they're trying to set teacher up for a mislim since I TR Teacher
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Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 3410, Menalque wrote:
In post 3398, bob3141 wrote:When they could simply vote osuka and claim that although he though osuka had good chance of flipping town. He knows for sure he is town.

Only a yogurt


And it wasnt at the time that the lynch was 100% decided. So again still pleanty of time on the clock
Bob can you run me through this pls I’m not sure what you’re saying

Basicly at the point teacher and dmath voted Village. IT couldnt of been more clear that IV was town.

He wasnt even the leading lynch if you took away his self vote. Scum never leaves them selves at risk of being a compromise lynch. If village was scum all he had to do was flip on his osuka read. The worst that woudl have happened is that he would have been lynched anyway.


When osuka was in the lead both there reads where


bob>osuka> IV

when ive was then ahead of ouska with iv self vote

it was

bob > IV > osuka


Kill ouska and you make it harder to lynch IV the next day.


You have yds hammer that could be writen of as avoiding no lynch as at that point he had one choice.

dnmath had 3 and teacher 2. They both choose IV.
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Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:01 am

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Right, that’s kinda my point

Scum!ydra doesn’t have a lot of reasons to hammer there unless maybe there’s a very specific world of her other partner ALSO being a deepwolf and one of the other slots in contention for the flip yesterday being scum who needed saving
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