Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

teacher · Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:34 am

daddy

teacher · Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:59 am

The formatting in Shelley's was screwing me up, so I made my own.

Spoiler: colored VCs

In post 25, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.01

execution
teacher [5]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED,
innocentvillager
, Ydrasse, osuka

Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Not Voting [6]:
Andresvmb, teacher,
saudade
, Menalque, Kerset, shellyc

In post 75, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.02

execution
teacher [2]:
Tayl0r Swift,
innocentvillager

]innocentvillager [2]:
osuka, PlusJOYED

Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
Kerset

PlusJOYED [1]:
Ydrasse

Not Voting [5]:
Andresvmb, teacher,
saudade
, Menalque, shellyc

In post 150, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.03

execution
teacher [3]:
Tayl0r Swift,
innocentvillager
, Menalque

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

PlusJOYED [2]:
Ydrasse, shellyc

Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

shellyc [1]:
osuka

Not Voting [2]:
Andresvmb,
saudade

In post 200, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.04

execution
teacher [3]:
Tayl0r Swift,
innocentvillager
, Menalque

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

PlusJOYED [2]:
Ydrasse, shellyc

Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

shellyc [1]:
osuka

Kerset [1]:

saudade

Not Voting [1]:
Andresvmb

In post 328, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.05

execution
shellyc [3]:
osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse

teacher [2]:
Tayl0r Swift, Menalque

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

Kerset [2]:

saudade
,
innocentvillager

Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

Tayl0r Swift [1]:
shellyc

Not Voting [0]:

In post 375, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.06

execution
shellyc [3]:
osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

Kerset [2]:

saudade
,
innocentvillager

Tayl0r Swift [2]:
shellyc, NDMath

teacher [1]:
Tayl0r Swift

Ydrasse [1]:
Menalque

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

Not Voting [0]:

In post 450, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.07

execution
Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, Menalque

shellyc [2]:
osuka, Andresvmb

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

Kerset [2]:

saudade
,
innocentvillager

teacher [1]:
Tayl0r Swift

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

Not Voting [1]:
Ydrasse

In post 550, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.08

execution
Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, Menalque

]innocentvillager [2]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset

Kerset [2]:

saudade
, osuka

shellyc [1]:
Andresvmb

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

Not Voting [2]:
Ydrasse, Tayl0r Swift

In post 600, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.09

execution
Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, Menalque

]innocentvillager [3]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

Kerset [2]:

saudade
, osuka

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

plusJOYED [1]:
Andresvmb

Not Voting [1]:
Ydrasse

In post 700, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.10

execution
Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, Menalque

]innocentvillager [3]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

Kerset [2]:

saudade
, osuka

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Menalque [1]:
teacher

plusJOYED [1]:
Andresvmb

Not Voting [1]:
Ydrasse

In post 925, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.11

execution
Kerset [4]:

saudade
, osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse

Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, teacher

]innocentvillager [3]:
PlusJOYED, Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [0]:

In post 975, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.12

execution
Kerset [4]:

saudade
, osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse

Tayl0r Swift [4]:
shellyc, NDMath, teacher, PlusJOYED

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1075, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.13

execution
Kerset [5]:

saudade
, osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager

Tayl0r Swift [4]:
shellyc, NDMath, teacher, PlusJOYED

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1150, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.14

execution
Kerset [5]:
osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
, Tayl0r Swift

Tayl0r Swift [4]:
shellyc, NDMath, teacher, PlusJOYED

]innocentvillager [1]:
Kerset

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [1]:

saudade

In post 1175, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.15

execution
Kerset [4]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
, Tayl0r Swift

Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

]innocentvillager [1]:
Kerset

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [2]:

saudade
, osuka

In post 1250, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.16

execution
Kerset [5]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
, Tayl0r Swift,
saudade

Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, osuka

plusJOYED [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1300, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.17

execution
Kerset [6]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
, Tayl0r Swift,
saudade
, Menalque

Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, osuka

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1400, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.18

execution
Kerset [5]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
,
saudade
, Menalque

Tayl0r Swift [3]:
shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, osuka

PlusJOYED [1]:
Tayl0r Swift

Not Voting [0]:

mod notes~ another one

In post 1500, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.19

execution
Kerset [4]:
Ydrasse,
innocentvillager
,
saudade
, Menalque

Tayl0r Swift [4]:
shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED, Andresvmb

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

]innocentvillager [2]:
Kerset, osuka

PlusJOYED [1]:
Tayl0r Swift

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1575, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.20

execution
]innocentvillager [5]:
Kerset, osuka, Andresvmb, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Kerset [2]:

innocentvillager
,
saudade

Tayl0r Swift [2]:
shellyc, NDMath

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

Not Voting [2]:
Menalque, Ydrasse

In post 1702, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.21

execution
]innocentvillager [4]:
Kerset, osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Tayl0r Swift [2]:
shellyc, NDMath

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

Kerset [1]:

saudade

PlusJOYED [1]:
Andresvmb

Not Voting [3]:
Menalque, Ydrasse,
innocentvillager

In post 1775, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.22

execution
osuka [4]:
Menalque,
innocentvillager
, Ydrasse, Andresvmb

]innocentvillager [4]:
Kerset, osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Tayl0r Swift [2]:
shellyc, NDMath

NDMath [2]:
bob3141, teacher

Kerset [1]:

saudade

Not Voting [0]:

In post 1875, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.23

execution
]innocentvillager [5]:
Kerset, osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, shellyc

osuka [3]:
Menalque,
innocentvillager
, Andresvmb

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

Kerset [1]:

saudade

Not Voting [3]:
Ydrasse, NDMath, teacher

In post 2011, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.24

execution
]innocentvillager [4]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, shellyc

Kerset [3]:

saudade
, teacher, Ydrasse

osuka [2]:
Menalque, Andresvmb

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

teacher [1]:
Kerset

Not Voting [2]:
NDMath,
innocentvillager

In post 2050, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.25

execution
]innocentvillager [3]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Kerset [3]:

saudade
, teacher, Ydrasse

osuka [2]:
Menalque, Andresvmb

NDMath [1]:
bob3141

teacher [1]:
Kerset

PlusJOYED [1]:
shellyc

Not Voting [2]:
NDMath,
innocentvillager

In post 2125, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.26

execution
]innocentvillager [3]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Kerset [3]:

saudade
, teacher, Ydrasse

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

osuka [1]:
Menalque

PlusJOYED [1]:
shellyc

bob3141 [1]:
Andresvmb

Not Voting [2]:
NDMath,
innocentvillager

In post 2388, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.27

execution
]innocentvillager [3]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

bob3141 [3]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, Ydrasse

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Kerset [1]:
shellyc

osuka [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [3]:

innocentvillager
, teacher,
saudade

In post 2450, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.28

execution
bob3141 [4]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, Ydrasse, teacher

]innocentvillager [3]:
osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Kerset [1]:
shellyc

osuka [1]:
Menalque

Not Voting [2]:

innocentvillager
,
saudade

In post 2525, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.29

execution
bob3141 [4]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, Ydrasse, teacher

]innocentvillager [2]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Kerset [1]:
shellyc

osuka [1]:
Menalque

Menalque [1]:
osuka

Not Voting [2]:

innocentvillager
,
saudade

In post 2650, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.30

execution
bob3141 [3]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, teacher

]innocentvillager [3]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka

osuka [3]:
Menalque,
innocentvillager
, Ydrasse

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Kerset [1]:
shellyc

Not Voting [1]:

saudade

In post 2700, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.31

execution
osuka [4]:
Menalque, Ydrasse, shellyc,
saudade

bob3141 [3]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, teacher

]innocentvillager [3]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

shellyc [1]:

innocentvillager

Not Voting [0]:

In post 2816, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.32

execution
osuka [5]:
Menalque, Ydrasse, shellyc,
innocentvillager
,
saudade

bob3141 [3]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, teacher

]innocentvillager [3]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Not Voting [0]:

In post 2900, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.33

execution
osuka [4]:
Menalque, Ydrasse, shellyc,
saudade

]innocentvillager [4]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager

bob3141 [3]:
Andresvmb, NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Not Voting [0]:

In post 2975, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.34

execution
osuka [5]:
Menalque, Ydrasse, shellyc,
saudade
, Andresvmb

]innocentvillager [4]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager

bob3141 [2]:
NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Not Voting [0]:

In post 3025, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.35

execution
osuka [4]:
Ydrasse, shellyc,
saudade
, Andresvmb

]innocentvillager [4]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager

bob3141 [2]:
NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

Not Voting [1]:
Menalque

In post 3050, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.36

execution
]innocentvillager [4]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager

osuka [3]:
Ydrasse, shellyc,
saudade

bob3141 [2]:
NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

PlusJOYED [1]:
Andresvmb

Not Voting [1]:
Menalque

In post 3386, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.final

execution
]innocentvillager [7]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager
, teacher, NDMath, Ydrasse
[HAMMER]

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

PlusJOYED [2]:
Andresvmb, Menalque

Kerset [2]:

saudade
, shellyc

Not Voting [0]:

teacher · Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:44 am

Factchecking Bob's posts from just today.

In post 3388, bob3141 wrote:[talking about NDMAth] You push me then as soon as my wagon goes. You then say your ok with ouska. Osuka wagon breaks up and tehn your all for IV.

False on ANY number of levels: NDMath (a) never says he is ok with Osuka; (b) never is all for IV (see below).

Spoiler: Osuka quotes

In post 3389, bob3141 wrote:a few days to deadline

In post 3398, bob3141 wrote:pleanty of time on the clock

lol. -17 hours, with no counterwagon to IV (nothing above 2 IIRC (Osuka breaking apart, Bob not gaining traction, Plus being a brand new one that nobody had weighed). Sure, lots of time.

In post 3397, bob3141 wrote:He choose to vote IV, He choose not to push for any alternative lynch. He didnt say oh at worst IV is VT. He said oh now i think he is scum. He didnt say im voting to avoid no lynch. Which we were still a fair bit from

Again, not at all a fair bit from. Hours from. What alternative lynch had any possibility -- maybe Osuka, whom NDMath had explicitly townread (but of course Bob concealed that fact). More importantly, NDMAth does say exactly what Bob said he didnt -- that it was a compromise on at worst a vt slot that cannot see lylo

Spoiler: relevant IV quotes

In post 3399, bob3141 wrote:votes IV with conviction.

Yea, those IV quotes above sure do have conviction.

In post 3423, bob3141 wrote:When osuka was in the lead both there [i.e., mine and NDMaths] reads where

bob>osuka> IV

Challenge -- quote me saying Id go to Osuka over IV. Go ahead.

teacher · Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:51 am

VOTE: Kerset.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:26 am

VOTE: Kerset

PlusJOYED · Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:27 am

In post 3386, Datisi wrote:
Vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

execution
innocentvillager [7]:
Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka, innocentvillager, teacher, NDMath, Ydrasse
[HAMMER]

teacher [2]:
Kerset, bob3141

PlusJOYED [2]:
Andresvmb, Menalque

Kerset [2]:
Saudade, shellyc

Not Voting [0]:

flip
innocentvillager
has been executed Day 1. He was a
Vanilla Townie
.

The sun sets, it is now Night 1. Sunrise in
(expired on 2020-09-20 12:00:00)
.

mod notes~ hi i just woke up

flavour

I still can't believe IV flipped town, what the hell IV?
Anyway, him being town and sau flip does impact my reads quite a bit.
Kerset claimed gated so i could see them being town still. That or mafia has a roleblocker. Still my TR on them has weakened with flips.
Mena is definitely town imo, scum wouldn't go that hard to save a townie. Super strong obvtown
If osuka is still after mena I think he's probably scumbinned at this point, town wouldn't do that
Shelly is still town
Ndmath is still super scummy
Bob scumlean I think
Teacher i needs to read iso
Andres obvtown
ydrasse seems towny overall, I think the hammer may have been exhaustion

Andresvmb · Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:30 am

NDMath is Town. Let’s stop wasting time.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:31 am

We had a hard claimed Cop, who the Scum definitely must have believed, and Kerset who was a Claimed Doctor didn’t protect there? Please. That slot is flipping Scum always.

PlusJOYED · Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:35 am

In post 3456, Andresvmb wrote:NDMath is Town. Let’s stop wasting time.

how
they've done nothing towny this game

Andresvmb · Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:35 am

My solve is {Kerset, Bob, Ydrasse}. There’s an outside chance Tayl0r and plusJOYED are Scum, but I’ll push those slots later.

PlusJOYED · Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:38 am

I think I want a ndmath, bob, teacher, or osuka elim today
peddit agree on town!taylor atm
I don't think that hammer was a scumtell imo

Andresvmb · Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:39 am

Can’t say that I care what you want to be honest haha I’m going to be on Kerset all day. Good luck convincing me that this slot isn’t Scum.

teacher · Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:41 am

In post 3457, Andresvmb wrote:We had a hard claimed Cop,

????

teacher · Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:42 am

Oh right, I forgot Saud said that. Yea, to me it seemed obviously fake? I think it was saud simply for being UTR.

teacher · Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:46 am

In post 3460, PlusJOYED wrote:I think I want a ndmath, bob, teacher, or osuka elim today
peddit agree on town!taylor atm
I don't think that hammer was a scumtell imo

Plus, my read on you has slipped quite a bit, but I agree with your elimination pool other than me. That's part of my read on you -- I feel like you've been on the OTHER wagons from Mena/Shelley/Ydrasse/Saud (my townleans D1), but had townleans of them/otherwise positioned consistent with them. I feel like the dissonance between your reads of them and your wagon positioning relative to them was one of the reasons people had a hard time consolidating yesterday.

teacher · Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:47 am

In post 3460, PlusJOYED wrote:peddit agree on town!taylor atm

Then look at the VCS around 1.11 through 1.13. If town!taylor, do you really think all three leading wagons are on town?

Talk to me about Kerset, leaving aside the claim.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:53 am

In post 3463, teacher wrote:Oh right, I forgot Saud said that. Yea, to me it seemed obviously fake? I think it was saud simply for being UTR.

Yeah to me too to be honest (way too obvious a misplay), but at the same time, Saudade came out and was seriously questioning Ydrasse for the hammer. That also probably got him killed.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:58 am

In post 3433, bob3141 wrote:For anyone scum read me. so far this game has hard meta im town

The fact scum decided to shoot saud, a player that was clear VT. As scum i have massive hit rate when it comes to town pr.

In my last town game i spotted all town pr dayone.

You do always say this, I’ll give you that.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:01 am

Okay I’ll hard claim this because it’s honestly kind of funny. I can confirm that NDMath is Ascetic. So nobody has to waste time trying to figure out if the Claim is true or not. Now whether it’s a claim coming from Town or Scum I don’t know, but I have a hard time seeing why NDMath as Scum would claim that.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:05 am

I think this game is built in a way that the Town all have Scummy looking claims to be honest. I think the purpose of these negative Town roles was to make people suspicious.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:08 am

I’m also going to point out that my 599 regarding my Town core is looking better and better by the minute.

bob3141 · Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:10 am

In post 3467, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3433, bob3141 wrote:For anyone scum read me. so far this game has hard meta im town

The fact scum decided to shoot saud, a player that was clear VT. As scum i have massive hit rate when it comes to town pr.

In my last town game i spotted all town pr dayone.
You do always say this, I’ll give you that.

Bacause i always do hit town pr nigth oen as scum. If VT had been hit the odds of me beign scum is realy small.

Especially a slot like saude who was blatant VT. Seriously don't get why scum nked him as it was a pretty bad kill. He might have been a roundly town read player but n1 and n2 is not the time for those kills. N1 and N2 is for town pr. What's the point in killing a roundly townread player if another player could get an extra clear in the game.

A slot that makes no sense from a kerset perspective either. Why kill the lead when you can kill their backing singers. Nor a town kerset as you either use saud to get him lynched or keep his vote as dead weight.

You can tell not only by the lack of town pr that im town but the fact a night kill happened that i would always override. Just look at my scum pt, see how much of it is me. How much i plan interaction with my buddies.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:11 am

Yeah I buy that Bob that’s fine. But you stay in my POE for now. Kerset is still very much the execution today.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:13 am

Also shellyc is Town. Sorry for doubting you shelly. You got a bit overly aggressive there and that gave me some Scum pings. But I was wrong I think.

Andresvmb · Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:14 am

If Kerset actually flips Town btw nuke Teacher. But I have a feeling it won’t.