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[Noraa]

Theres literally 78 possible scum teams
(13 choose 2)
The probability of finding the right two scum day 1/2 is very very low imo

[VP Baltar]

Just because I don't want to assume there are definitely mafia players on the wagon but I suspect there might be one.

Who would that potential scum be and why?

[Noraa]

I would like to hear a fellow newbie's opinion as well. My reads are still nowhere near solid and I need some outside influence to solidify more

[Ythan]

I think someone being a newbie isn't that relevant for whether they're scum? If you're suspecting someone because they're a newbie that's just really weird to me. Also newbie status has limited relevance in general.

Maybe you're an inexperienced newbie after all. I was talking about cutting weird behavior slack in a newbie. Which is a thing.

[Ythan]

For example: why is this not valid? Surely a town player could also mess up trying to get reads in a particular way and failing?

Because they made no effort to share reads they had supposedly been acting scummy to get??

[Noraa]

I agree with Ythan here. People tend to cut newbies some slack which is the only reason I made it to day 3 in my first scumgame. But at the same time newbies are really difficult to read and understand. What goes thru their minds can be very difficult to understand even for us.

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 2.1 (9/20/2020)

xRECKONERx [X-6]

AGar [X-6]

VP Baltar [X-6]

Gamma Emerald [X-6]

Haschel Cedricson [X-5]

tn5421

brighteningskies [X-6]

Noraa [X-6]

Untrod Tripod [X-6]

DoctorPepper [X-4]

AGar, Ythan

tn5421 [X-6]

Ythan [X-6]

Not Voting [8]

xRECKONERx, VP Baltar, Gamma Emerald, Haschel Cedricson, brighteningskies, Noraa, Untrod Tripod, DoctorPepper

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to vote a player out.

Deadline is on Saturday, October 3, at 11am EDT, in (expired on 2020-10-03 11:00:00).

[VP Baltar]

Haschel, if you had a one-shot big right now, who would you elim?

[VP Baltar]

Haschel, if you had a one-shot big right now, who would you elim?

Open question to anyone after Haschel answers

[tn5421]

the nice thing about only having a couple of anime avatars is that when one starts anime avatarring no one really gives a shit and we don't have to consider policy yeeting just to remove the cancer

I requested a sunny avatar and was ignored. Take that as you will.

I mean, this town turbo

yeeted

someone for not being part of the old boy's club, so here we are, 2 town dead and possessing barely more information than we did during RVS.

i don't really follow this tbh...in what way do you read this as an "old boys club" powerfucking someone just for being "new" (which....check chkflip's join date)

i dislike some of the actions around the wagon but to wave it all off as being some clique thing seems wrong?

also...how do you know it was

town

turboyeeting someone?
like... that's my theory. sure. are you agreeing with me that the wagon was all or mostly town driven?

you haven't stated either way why you believe it to be town-driven/not town driven, so this assumption seems...telling?

I don't 'know' it was town turbo-yeeting someone, but it doesn't feel like a yeet mafia would pour on to. I would think that mafia would want to keep someone so easily mis-yeet-able around for later.

That's just my intuition thought. If I need to flip green for you to listen, have at it.

Would you mind restating 307 in different words please?

I think Annie Edison dying points to somebody who dislikes hydras potentially being scum. Fringe chance of VPB having slipped in the true motive.
PEdit: okay then

This is another hilariously hot take that is going to lead to another mis-yeet, i just know it.

Yeah see that's the kind of low-effort shit I would expect from scum. Like anyone could have very easily gone "Shit, we're getting perilously close to a hammer w/o a lot of voices chiming in," and simply unvoted. Leaving your vote parked is *also* saying "I am completely fine with this day ending early and no discussion cropping up."

Also trying to frame Chkflip's departure as "he wasn't part of the old boys club" is wildly inaccurate - he posted in a manner that was entirely inflammatory and pretty much asking to eat a yeet. I disagree with giving him that on the fact that that's a helluva bet if you're scum, and I disagree with all of the speed, but it wasn't "yeet the outsider." Especially considering those you are presumably classing as the "old boys club" don't even command half the player list or enough to run a yeet by themselves.

P-Edit: Because I have higher priorities of who I want to yeet than you. But you'd have to do more than ctrl+f'ing your name to understand that.

I think you’re demanding too much of tn. tn had no way to anticipate someone deciding to suddenly hammer the wagon with 0 ceremony to it, the table we have imo should very very rarely if ever have that happen. I’ve also seen people get upset at Y-1 voters who didn’t announce it despite the VC being on the same fucking page. My guess would be they thought everyone was sane enough to read the VC and have enough counting skill to know the would be dropping the hammer.

I have to say I didn't expect it of this playerlist in particular. If Haschel ends up town I'll be surprised & probably have an amount of egg on my face.

I couldn't have unvoted chk because I didn't vote him in the first place.

I literally wasn't talking about you in reference to unvoting chk, but go off!

Who WERE you talking about? Same thought process I just expressed likely applies there.

AGar indicated that "I left my vote parked" because I "was okay with the day ending". So I reminded him that I didn't have a vote out.

Haschel, if you had a one-shot big right now, who would you elim?

Open question to anyone after Haschel answers

Either Haschel or Ythan. Haschel because I scumread them, Ythan for their mostly unhelpful posts.

[tn5421]

oh shit i can't read sorry vp

[Ythan]

I'm one of only three players with a vote down and you choose me to ask who I'd kill?

[tn5421]

I don't like your posts in a way that probably isn't game related.

[Ythan]

Hope that doesn't impact your enjoyment of the game too much.

[tn5421]

I appreciate your concern.

I will, as they say,

deal with it

.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Haschel, if you had a one-shot big right now, who would you elim?

Ythan or tn. Actually leaning tn right now because Ythan made a few posts I saw in my skim that looked good but I need to reread everything posted since I went to sleep last night.

Just looked at Haschel's ISO.. so much saying "this is bad" without actually saying why anything is bad, many questions on other people to get them to simply elaborate without actually asking real questions.
Haschel would you please elaborate on why you thought ckflip was scum?

To the first point, that's called scumhunting. To the second, I have no problem answering but before I do is there literally anybody in the thread who doesn't already understand that? I get people don't agree with my premises but I have been very clear about what they were.

[tn5421]

"this is bad"

[brighteningskies]

"I know someone will"
but then ur the only one that talks about it.
Alright inform me of why scum!Noraa would choose to say this
oh btw that theory is really a stretch and proposing theories like that isn't that helpful in moving the game forward bc generally they're wrong

liittle bit of a "look how town I am" vibe here hm

To the first point, that's called scumhunting. To the second, I have no problem answering but before I do is there literally anybody in the thread who doesn't already understand that? I get people don't agree with my premises but I have been very clear about what they were.

No I get you're scumhunting but it feels a bit like scumhunting in a way where nothing is shared with town. What opinions do you actually have on players because if you're getting reads from your scumhunting, you ain't sharing them yet apparently?

[brighteningskies]

I requested a sunny avatar and was ignored. Take that as you will.

I will make you one if you keep it a bit longer than the game

[tn5421]

how much longer?

[Noraa]

LAMIST isn't my thing but whateves

[VP Baltar]

I have to say I didn't expect it of this playerlist in particular.

You just mean you didn't expect the speed of the D1 yeet?

Side question, what's your read on Reckoner, tn?

[VP Baltar]

I'm one of only three players with a vote down and you choose me to ask who I'd kill?

You realize no one is voting because of that bullshit yesterday, right?

[Ythan]

I'm one of only three players with a vote down and you choose me to ask who I'd kill?

You realize no one is voting because of that bullshit yesterday, right?

Doesn't change the point I was making there. But yeah I got u tho.

[brighteningskies]

I think someone being a newbie isn't that relevant for whether they're scum? If you're suspecting someone because they're a newbie that's just really weird to me. Also newbie status has limited relevance in general.

Maybe you're an inexperienced newbie after all. I was talking about cutting weird behavior slack in a newbie. Which is a thing.

Must have read it wrong sorry. What's counted as weird behaviour? To me it seems like everyone has a different way of playing that could be seen as weird.

I didn't claim to be experienced. Mostly played irl games which is very different.

Also I interpreted ckflips lack of reads from the aggressive behaviour as that his tactic had failed which makes sense because often people don't react well to aggression.
But yeah I suppose since he didn't say that it could seem suspicious.