Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[teacher]

Daddytisi

[PlusJOYED]

Talk to me about Kerset, leaving aside the claim.

Hey Plus, wanna hit this up?

i could see him as going either way. I rambled quite a bit about kerset before lemme dig that up

[PlusJOYED]

on kerset, i didn't want to go into detail but I think I have to:
they do seem nervous from their iso. But newbish scumtells are also newbie pr tells. They are most definitely either doctor or mafia. From mafia!kersets perspective, they haven't been putting much effort into solving I think and have been one of the quieter ones. That could be a doctor who is worried about being outed (I think is likely) or a scum player who doesn't wanna seem sus. If they are scum, then by crumbing a fake claim early they'd know they are under suspicion. But Saudade death tunneled kerset from the get go and gave them many chances to prove towniness by posting game stuff early on; kerset did not. Why would scum!Kerset crumb there, when they could likely have escaped suspicion early pretty easily by just acting townie instead? That's honestly not hard to do as scum or town, especially given Saudades low bar. That doesn't make sense to me at all why they would crumb and take a big risk as scum; hell their 2 scum buddies could have helped them by evening writing out towny things for Kerset to say if Kerset didn't know how to do it. That's the biggest flaw in the scum!kerset idea imo.

Instead Kerset just got more nervous and defensive. This attitude makes the most sense from doc!Kerset perspective, where they don't want to appear too towny so they become a maf target and die n1. The early hammer reaction looked realish but could be faked. Rather, they wanted to lay low, maybe even appear a little scummy so maf would leave them alone possibly (idk for sure), but Saudade wouldn't back off, and a wagon formed. Kerset showed more signs of being nervous which makes sense from town!Kerset perspective imo. If I was scum and knew Kerset wasn't, I'd let Kerset live n1 and then jump on them like crazy day 2 to get them mislimed, which we might see. I came to this conclusion pretty early after Kerset claimed doc, and wanted to see who would jump on to get a solid scumtell start of day 2.

tl;dr scum kerset mindset doesn't make sense and so they are very likely town imo.

I'm leaning Saudade kerset being tvt.

this still is my opinion on kerset

[PlusJOYED]

i used to TR kerset hard but recent events and saude flipping and being wrong have weakened it quite a bit. The longer kerset lives the more I doubt their claim.

[PlusJOYED]

But kerset isn't getting my vote today

[Andresvmb]

Finally, it’s now family/football time so I’m for a bit. Andres can you talk about choosing to check ndmath instead of Kerset?

They Claimed Ascetic. I wanted to ensure that was accurate. If you think about it, I think it’s entirely possible the Scum have a Rolestopper and a permanent Ascetic, which protects 2 out of the 3 Scum from a Cop check. Which is where my Role comes in. The counter to that is the fact that I’m also a Miller I guess, though I don’t know, the design of this game seems kind of funky for a Mini Normal. Anyway, I think your Informed makes a lot of sense in that context, which is why I’m completely ruling you out as Scum actually.

[Andresvmb]

We’re practically in the same place considering your 3483. So I’ll check whichever one of Kerset/plus we don’t flip today. It’s highly likely I won’t be around to see tomorrow, but at least you know what I’m going to do.

[Andresvmb]

Also Menalque is always Town I don’t think this needs to be said.

[Andresvmb]

I think we need to blow up {Kerset, plusJOYED, NDMath}, and if the game isn’t over then pick your poison in {Tayl0r, Osuka}. Bob is probably fine. Ydrasse could have hammered to stop the move onto Kerset that Saudade wanted to push. I don’t know why that makes me dumb all of a sudden. Ydrasse very much sounded like Town but I don’t know that I would like gamble the whole game on it. Menalque and Teacher should be untouchable this game.

[osuka]

sorry iv

VOTE: mena

[PlusJOYED]

sorry iv

VOTE: mena

bruh moment
are your reads really just dead wrong as town or have you just been obvscumming this entire game

[osuka]

sorry iv

VOTE: mena

bruh moment
are your reads really just dead wrong as town or have you just been obvscumming this entire game

my reads might be bad but aren't you one of the most widely scumread slots in the game?

[Kerset]

cool saudade is dead and now i get instant L-2
You don't know how to make insightful NKA. We are talking here about saud, he is careless gamethrower. His existence was harmful to town and viging him would be worth it regardless of his alignment, so healing him was out of question. This guy misleads town to lynch his target regardless of circumstances to satisfy his ego. Hardclaimming bullshits is just one of throws typical for his behavior, he thinks that saying nonsense as town is 200IQ play, because thanks to his reputation he can get away with anything, once he rolls scum.
The most important information we got is scum lack of knowledge. Scum didn't know about his nature and took him seriously, which points at people with 2020 join date. Especially shelly, which periodically appears as more naive then she normally should be.

[Kerset]

Im not generally TR'ed, I dont think. I was like the 4th most popular compromise slot in Plusjoyed lists yesterday 1 day before deadline. And, note that by shading NDMath's vote as being "a few days" before deadline, he is also implicitly shading my even earlier vote.

But at the same time you claimed informed, because he feared to be nightkilled. He claimed information, which can potentially catch scum once they claim, if you wait with it.

[teacher]

I don’t understand 3513. Who is “he”?

[Kerset]

If Kerset actually flips Town btw nuke Teacher. But I have a feeling it won’t.

Why? Ok sure i flip, which confirms me as town but why would it imply that i my read was correct? I already revealed my role and i am not any sort of investigative, my leads are as good as any. I don't like the way you set him up.

[Kerset]

I don’t understand 3513. Who is “he”?

mistake, i meant you

[Kerset]

Yeah I’m a Miller Town Checker. Frankly it’s a bit of a stupid Role.

I think its cool. Checker role itself is as old as your account.

[Kerset]

yeah i think the simplest solve for me rn is plus/kerset/osuka.

So your idea is that plus as my partner could avoid voting me untill the end? My wagon had 0 reluctance, this would be a suicide.

[Tayl0r Swift]

kerset why didnt you doc the claimed cop?

[Kerset]

We are talking here about saud, he is careless gamethrower. His existence was harmful to town and viging him would be worth it regardless of his alignment, so healing him was out of question. This guy misleads town to lynch his target regardless of circumstances to satisfy his ego. Hardclaimming bullshits is just one of throws typical for his behavior, he thinks that saying nonsense as town is 200IQ play, because thanks to his reputation he can get away with anything, once he rolls scum.

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