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Post Post #3575 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 3572, shellyc wrote:what if checker is our only investigative

this setup is weird
then how / why would they be a miller? That's bastard if we have no town investigative/cop and I don't think it would have been approved
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Post Post #3576 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:53 pm

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misdirection?

@Adres are you a Universal Miller i.e. showing guilty to trackers and gunsmiths
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Post Post #3577 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 3564, PlusJOYED wrote:this feels suprisingly bastard for a normal game lol. I also think so far we have too many prs so I think one of them might be fake
peddit: when did you stop SRing me?
miller and ascetic are probably negative town utility. ascetic might be neutral, but its certainly not positive. with a checker its for sure negative town utility. that means theres plenty of room for more PRs. the only actual claimed PR is doc, and i dont buy the claim.
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Post Post #3578 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:07 pm

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i guess also whatever plus is and an informed. but so far its not a lot of town power, aside from the doc. and the doc claim probably is fake.

i thought i already did this, but VOTE: kerset thats lunch-1
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Post Post #3579 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 3543, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 3491, Andresvmb wrote:Anyway I think I’m supposed to check which Scum was Rolestopped to protect from a Cop check. So I’ll be checking somebody from my pool. If they come back Ascetic, then we know they’re Scum. I might have to announce it. The Scum can’t kill us both.

Also, NDMath should be flipped this game at some point. I get Bob’s point now.
just because you got a result doesnt mean your target is town btw.
In post 3544, shellyc wrote:rolestopper usually rolestops scum

you should have kept that info tbh, rolestopper will now probably target town
The POE is not that large. And if the Cop is still with us tomorrow then the gambit will have paid off.
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Post Post #3580 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:10 pm

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In post 3576, shellyc wrote:misdirection?

@Adres are you a Universal Miller i.e. showing guilty to trackers and gunsmiths
It only talks about a Cop, not a Gunsmith. I highly doubt there’s a Gunsmith in this setup haha
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Post Post #3581 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 3553, PlusJOYED wrote:tinfoil hat idea:
ndmath isn't ascetic at all. They have a mafia rolestopper and they rolestopped ndmath to give a pseudo obvtown as mafia
This is why I didn’t reveal yesterday. Because theoretically the Rolestopper using their role on NDMath would have been kind of silly since a theoretical Cop would not have really been expected to check there.
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Post Post #3582 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:12 pm

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In post 3580, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3576, shellyc wrote:misdirection?

@Adres are you a Universal Miller i.e. showing guilty to trackers and gunsmiths
It only talks about a Cop, not a Gunsmith. I highly doubt there’s a Gunsmith in this setup haha
so then there is a town cop, ok
i don't want to speculate or out them, but I am kind of curious that there wouldn't be anyone CCing saude yesterday
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Post Post #3583 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:15 pm

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saudade claim was obvwrong and bait
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Post Post #3584 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 3553, PlusJOYED wrote:tinfoil hat idea:
ndmath isn't ascetic at all. They have a mafia rolestopper and they rolestopped ndmath to give a pseudo obvtown as mafia
You do realize I said this yesterday ya?
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Post Post #3585 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:26 pm

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In post 3558, shellyc wrote:I'm currently scumleaning NDMath who is probable deepwolf here and also on iv wagon

what if they were a mafia gated commuter or something
I’m sorry in what world is ndmath a deep wolf??? Like nobody TRs the slot.
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Post Post #3586 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:28 pm

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Post Post #3587 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm

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In post 3585, teacher wrote:I’m sorry in what world is ndmath a deep wolf??? Like nobody TRs the slot.
wrong terminology lol but i SR them fwiw
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Post Post #3588 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm

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In post 3527, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 3512, Kerset wrote:cool saudade is dead and now i get instant L-2
You don't know how to make insightful NKA. We are talking here about saud, he is careless gamethrower. His existence was harmful to town and viging him would be worth it regardless of his alignment, so healing him was out of question. This guy misleads town to lynch his target regardless of circumstances to satisfy his ego. Hardclaimming bullshits is just one of throws typical for his behavior, he thinks that saying nonsense as town is 200IQ play, because thanks to his reputation he can get away with anything, once he rolls scum.
The most important information we got is scum lack of knowledge. Scum didn't know about his nature and took him seriously, which points at people with 2020 join date. Especially shelly, which periodically appears as more naive then she normally should be.
???
Well shit, I don't see how this post could come from anywhere but scum even with my confbias. Guess I was wrong on you kerset
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Does anybody else actually believe this as a reason to flip so hard?
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Post Post #3589 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm

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In post 3586, teacher wrote:
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thats fine but i still dunno if its time to end the day yet.
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Post Post #3590 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:29 pm

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In post 3588, teacher wrote:
In post 3527, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 3512, Kerset wrote:cool saudade is dead and now i get instant L-2
You don't know how to make insightful NKA. We are talking here about saud, he is careless gamethrower. His existence was harmful to town and viging him would be worth it regardless of his alignment, so healing him was out of question. This guy misleads town to lynch his target regardless of circumstances to satisfy his ego. Hardclaimming bullshits is just one of throws typical for his behavior, he thinks that saying nonsense as town is 200IQ play, because thanks to his reputation he can get away with anything, once he rolls scum.
The most important information we got is scum lack of knowledge. Scum didn't know about his nature and took him seriously, which points at people with 2020 join date. Especially shelly, which periodically appears as more naive then she normally should be.
???
Well shit, I don't see how this post could come from anywhere but scum even with my confbias. Guess I was wrong on you kerset
UNVOTE:
VOTE: kerset
Does anybody else actually believe this as a reason to flip so hard?
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Post Post #3591 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:31 pm

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In post 3589, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 3586, teacher wrote:
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thats fine but i still dunno if its time to end the day yet.
Ya, I plan on waiting at least til NDmath checks into thread. I’m just following the niceties and saying that I intend to vote when I feel comfortable, and if you aren’t good with me holding hammer, then perhaps back off.
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Post Post #3592 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:33 pm

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I think joyed is just terribly wrong and I think that theyre TSTBS for now

we could end the day now since kerset is definitely flipped red

I listed my solve thingy: I think it's just kerset / math / osuka at this point

I TR teacher, Menalque, andres, plusjoy. taylor's been pretty townie this phase
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Post Post #3593 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:33 pm

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town are: teacher, ndmath, andres, shelly?, ydrasse.

that leaves: kerset, plus, osuka, bob, menal.

i also really dont like plus' flip on the one post. i also dont like bob coming in today and pointing out with self-meta how bob must be town because scum hit VT. im kinda leaning meal town by PoE, thinking kerset plus bob or kerset bob osuka just kinda makes sense.
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Post Post #3594 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 3591, teacher wrote:
In post 3589, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 3586, teacher wrote:
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thats fine but i still dunno if its time to end the day yet.
Ya, I plan on waiting at least til NDmath checks into thread. I’m just following the niceties and saying that I intend to vote when I feel comfortable, and if you aren’t good with me holding hammer, then perhaps back off.
you back off, punk.
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Post Post #3595 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:34 pm

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taylor explain town on NDMath
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Post Post #3596 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm

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lynchpool for me is kerset osuka bob math. 3 of the 4 are probably scum
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Post Post #3597 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm

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I'll revisit joyed after they fullclaim
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Post Post #3598 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:39 pm

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In post 3548, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 3545, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 3538, shellyc wrote:
In post 3493, PlusJOYED wrote:i never doubted ndmath was ascetic, I think they are mafia ascetic
mafia ascetic + mafia rolestopper + mafia goon

doesn't make a single bit of sense for scum to have that much power against investigatives
well i could see it in a game with a fucking miller town checker lol
also been busy irl, how do we know we have a mafia rolestopper again?
no it doesnt make sense. thats like having a scum miller. with town checker theres never scum ascetic.
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Post Post #3599 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:41 pm

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for ndmath to be scum, mafia would basically have to be informed that theres a town checker and then decide pregame to use the rolestopper exclusively to back that up.
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