FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

[Servant Berserker]

I don't understand why you're baiting her though.

Because being asked to claim their role when someone investigates them is beneath them, apparently, and they've decided to take personal offense to me asking them to do a PRETTY STANDARD PLAY.

[Servant Caster]

i think the way to handle this is as follows

berserker unvotes at some point so she can cast the hammer vote

berserker claims what her info is in the hammer post

this allows us to validate that she was not lying without giving moon cancer a chance to wiggle out

Oh, I don't think she's lying that she knows something about what I did last night.

I just think it's amusing that she thinks she has any kind of "guilty".

Honestly, more than anything else in a mafia game, I would love for this to happen, just to imagine the look on her face if she does a big hammer post outing what she knows, then Cabd immediately closes the thread and posts my flip.

i don't care what you think at this point, you are supposed to be busy drowning in a lake

this is a joke i don't wish any harm upon any of you in real life unless one of you is secretly donald trump

[Servant Moon Cancer]

You're asking me to claim my role because you say you have a "guilty".

We both know you don't have a guilty.

So no, I'm not going to play along.

[Servant Avenger]

I don't react well to people doing what she's doing today.

I mean, how often does this not work out versus how often does it work out?

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Like, literally, all you would have to do if you really had a guilty is say "he's lying" about anything I've said today and voila, you'd be done with this.

I have EXPLICITLY said that I know my action(s) went through, hit the intended target(s), I do not have a PT, no miller aspect of my role, nothing that would give you a guilty of any kind, etc etc.

If you had a guilty, you could just claim any one thing I've said there is untrue (including the fact that NOTHING in my role would give you a guilty - I am explicitly stating this).

We both know you don't have a real guilty.

So tell me why I should care about what you're doing right now.

[Servant Berserker]

I don't react well to people doing what she's doing today.

I mean, how often does this not work out versus how often does it work out?

Works out almost every time. Huge +EV Town play. Having the day consumed by this fucking debacle, if we are both town, is -EV for Town and Moon Cancer's fault for being literally insufferably arrogant.

[Servant Berserker]

Like, literally, all you would have to do if you really had a guilty is say "he's lying" about anything I've said today and voila, you'd be done with this.

I have EXPLICITLY said that I know my action(s) went through, hit the intended target(s), I do not have a PT, no miller aspect of my role, nothing that would give you a guilty of any kind, etc etc.

If you had a guilty, you could just claim any one thing I've said there is untrue (including the fact that NOTHING in my role would give you a guilty - I am explicitly stating this).

We both know you don't have a real guilty.

So tell me why I should care about what you're doing right now.

NONE OF THOSE CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM, ASSHOLE.

OH WOW

I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT?!?!?!?!?!

THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T CLEAR YOU FROM MY ROLE?!?!?!

AS IF MY ROLE IS UNIQUE?

IN A ROLE MADNESS GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?

fuck you

[Servant Moon Cancer]

I mean, how often does this not work out versus how often does it work out?

To be fair, this is the first time it's been done to me - it's usually more me berating people for stupid secrecy and gambits they try on other people.

NONE OF THOSE CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM, ASSHOLE.

OH WOW

I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT?!?!?!?!?!

THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T CLEAR YOU FROM MY ROLE?!?!?!

AS IF MY ROLE IS UNIQUE?

IN A ROLE MADNESS GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?

fuck you

OK. But this just drives the point I was making home. You don't have a guilty on me, or you'd be able to say with absolute certainty that at least one of the things I've said is untrue.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Like I've explicitly stated that NOTHING about my role would give you a false guilty - not my role, not my actions, not my results. That should be all the evidence you need to point out that I'm lying if I'm lying.

So do it.

[Servant Berserker]

I mean, how often does this not work out versus how often does it work out?

To be fair, this is the first time it's been done to me - it's usually more me berating people for stupid secrecy and gambits they try on other people.

NONE OF THOSE CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM, ASSHOLE.

OH WOW

I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT?!?!?!?!?!

THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T CLEAR YOU FROM MY ROLE?!?!?!

AS IF MY ROLE IS UNIQUE?

IN A ROLE MADNESS GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?

fuck you

OK. But this just drives the point I was making home.

You don't have a guilty on me, or you'd be able to say with absolute certainty that at least one of the things I've said is untrue.

This is false.

This is your utmost arrogance speaking. There are other roles that have other concerns about your role.

If you're so fucking confident I'm wrong, claim and we can fucking be done with this garbage.

[Servant Foreigner]

So tell me why I should care about what you're doing right now.

I will burn you if you don't claim by the time Assassin and Avenger are done with their red tape

[Servant Avenger]

Be back and in an hour.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

You don't even need to out what you know, you just need to say that I'm lying about anything I've said.

But we both know you can't.

[Servant Berserker]

You don't even need to out what you know, you just need to say that I'm lying about anything I've said.

But we both know you can't.

You may or may not be lying about anything you said.

Nothing you said MATTERS TO MY ROLE. My role only cares about ONE.
SPECIFIC.
THING.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Once again, I am EXPLICITLY saying that nothing about my role, my action(s), my target(s) or my result(s) would give you a false positive.

That is as much as I'm claiming.

Feel free to call me a liar.

Instead of constantly asking me to claim (which I'm not going to do), all you have to do is point out that what I'm saying is false because you somehow got a real guilty on me.

But you won't. Because you can't.

So stop pretending like you do have anything that even remotely comes close to a guilty.

[Servant Berserker]

Then you're lying.

You can die.

And if you turned out to be wrong about that above statement, it's not on me.

[Servant Caster]

if town you are currently claiming to have complete knowledge of every role that could possibly exist

go jump in a lake.

[Servant Alter Ego]

Oh, and not to mention I think I'm like the only one in this game that's 3/3 in terms of flips so far. Maybe. There may have been someone else? In any case, I'm yet to have an incorrect read, but I'm the one playing badly, haha.

There was your Assassin read?

/nitpick

There's stuff I want to talk about with you today, but damn if this is the time.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

And if you turned out to be wrong about that above statement, it's not on me.

It is 100% on you lol

Don't pretend like whatever information you have tells you anything about my alignment.

At least in twilight, be brave enough to admit that you have nothing that remotely comes close to a guilty.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

There was your Assassin read?

I mean, my initial reads on Assassin and Shielder were shit lol. I'm only really counting final pre-flip reads. If notes PTs get released, you'll see me giving, for example, my final verdict on Shielder that I stuck with pre-flip. Or see where my Assassin read reversed (and remained) for the master phase. *shrug*

I've asked Cabd not to spoil me even if I die mostly because I wanna see how accurate I can be for the rest of the game.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Oh, and that I didn't for one second believe the flavour trap that PA tried to pull lol. Actually, it just made me sure about my read because I thought "huge troll, def town".

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Oh, and if Lancer is scum, just be aware that your stupid "guilty" shenanigans are the reason he wasn't the wagon today, Berserker. That's also 100% on you.

[Servant Caster]

congrats on being very smart

[Servant Caster]

don't pat yourself on the back too hard you might sprain something

[Servant Moon Cancer]

*shrug*

I mean, I'd rather be right and have my play seen as "bad" than have abysmal reads or think Berserker has a real guilty rofl.