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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pm

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NDmath vs bob is probably not scum vs. scum.

I believe there's probably one scum within the two. Leaning bob atm because of ascetic setup spec
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pm

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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:01 pm

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In post 3593, Tayl0r Swift wrote:town are: teacher, ndmath, andres, shelly?, ydrasse.

that leaves: kerset, plus, osuka, bob, menal.

i also really dont like plus' flip on the one post. i also dont like bob coming in today and pointing out with self-meta how bob must be town because scum hit VT. im kinda leaning meal town by PoE, thinking kerset plus bob or kerset bob osuka just kinda makes sense.
the crux of my read was "kersets scumparterns wouldn't let him post like that"
but cmon, you gotta admit that post was pretty damning, no way town would make that post
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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:10 pm

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kerset isn't a newbie

tbh the flip-flop alludes to bussing scum but plusjoy's reads have constantly changed during this game. im still TL on plusjoy but I'll judge after the claim + reading ISO
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:19 pm

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alright i have time for some fiery takes before i go to sleep
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:20 pm

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In post 3613, shellyc wrote:
In post 3610, osuka wrote:wifom and a shit reason not to kill someone tbh
you're wifoming this
this is moronic and makes no sense whatsoever. how am i wifoming it? you were the one to make the argument in the first place, not me

the argument works both ways. "why would i kill someone who tr'd me" is essentially the same as "scum killed someone who sr'd me to get me lynched"
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:21 pm

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In post 3614, shellyc wrote:
In post 3611, osuka wrote:Okay here’s a scalding hot take
it's wrong though
feel free to convince me
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:23 pm

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actually none of those were hot takes. give me a minute
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:28 pm

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In post 3630, osuka wrote:this is moronic and makes no sense whatsoever. how am i wifoming it? you were the one to make the argument in the first place, not me

the argument works both ways. "why would i kill someone who tr'd me" is essentially the same as "scum killed someone who sr'd me to get me lynched"
scum!me killing town!saudade who TRs me doesn't advance my wincon. occam's razor is the way to go
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:29 pm

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In post 3631, osuka wrote:feel free to convince me
i can find time to self towncase myself later if you want
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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:36 pm

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Osuka, what’s your take on the Kerset wagon and posting?
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:40 pm

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In post 3628, shellyc wrote:kerset isn't a newbie

tbh the flip-flop alludes to bussing scum but plusjoy's reads have constantly changed during this game. im still TL on plusjoy but I'll judge after the claim + reading ISO
well regardless of alignment he's playing like one imo no offense
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:41 pm

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Vote count 2.04

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-09-30 12:45:00).


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Kerset [5]:
shellyc, Andresvmb, Menalque, PlusJOYED, Tayl0r Swift
shellyc [1]:
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bob3141 [1]:
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Not Voting [4]:
Kerset, bob3141, Ydrasse, teacher


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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:44 pm

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In post 3633, shellyc wrote:
In post 3630, osuka wrote:this is moronic and makes no sense whatsoever. how am i wifoming it? you were the one to make the argument in the first place, not me

the argument works both ways. "why would i kill someone who tr'd me" is essentially the same as "scum killed someone who sr'd me to get me lynched"
scum!me killing town!saudade who TRs me doesn't advance my wincon. occam's razor is the way to go
my point is that the argument works either way. occam's razor doesn't apply

please stop pretending like you don't get it
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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:45 pm

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also i think i just accidentally composed something really pretty so it might have to wait til tomorrow
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3638, osuka wrote:my point is that the argument works either way. occam's razor doesn't apply

please stop pretending like you don't get it
im not pretending because I do not
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:48 pm

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im headed to bed, hope you dang aussies murk kerset when i return
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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:09 pm

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In post 3640, shellyc wrote:
In post 3638, osuka wrote:my point is that the argument works either way. occam's razor doesn't apply

please stop pretending like you don't get it
im not pretending because I do not
suppose saud scumread you. after he got killed, wouldn't people be suspicious of you? that's weird, right? mafia would like to get rid of people who scumread them

_but_ killing someone who scumreads you draws attention to you. you wouldn't want that, would you now?

besides, wouldn't it be brilliant to kill someone who townread you to get those townie points the following day? it sure would
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:09 pm

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can we please stop being obtuse and get on with this conversation
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 3533, bob3141 wrote:Kerset today you have not realy said so far who you think is scum.

You made a post bashing saude. You have not even claimed who you protected and why. So who then?
I said yesterday that teacher, the flips didn't affect this read. Sorry that i haven't fully solved this game yet for you, i am still researching.

Andre. This is what smart scum would kill, his delayed claim suggested active power, he tried to lay low and wasn't really scumreaded by anyone. You should remember about skill level clue in lylo, it may safe the game. Also later you will see why is it bad idea to pursue gated pr about n1.
giv me pagetop :(
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:50 pm

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In post 3528, PlusJOYED wrote:Yeah suadade didn't throw, though I thought he was annoying too
If you took saude seriously then spoiler alert
Spoiler:
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Saudade
has been killed Night 1. He was a
Vanilla Townie
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The sun rises, it is now Day 2.

You were wrong, he was actually VT.

In post 3549, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 3541, shellyc wrote:
In post 3527, PlusJOYED wrote:Well shit, I don't see how this post could come from anywhere but scum even with my confbias. Guess I was wrong on you kerset
joyed i told ya you were incorrect
in my head town!kerset makes sense until they posted today. But yeah if kerset is doc like he says he threw by not protecting suade, so he's mafia
sure, who cares that as scum i could just say
i really wanted to protect our super cop but i am even-night/novice so i couldn't *crying emoji*
giv me pagetop :(
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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:00 pm

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In post 3550, shellyc wrote:so ascetic scum *might* make sense if scum only have a 1-shot rolestopper

pedit: we only have one ascetic claim so if stopper targets town 8/10 of us will return result

pedit: no result is better than guilty result end of convo also ascetic scum wont be affected by blocker when making the kill
Technically town power could be based on self-confirm (friendly neighbor, mason, fruit vendor etc) rather then check based (cop, neapolit, tracker etc). In that case even full ascetic scum team can balanced. RS would be there to slow things down.
In post 3553, PlusJOYED wrote:tinfoil hat idea:
ndmath isn't ascetic at all. They have a mafia rolestopper and they rolestopped ndmath to give a pseudo obvtown as mafia
being ascetic repels investigators, checker is the only thing that would bother visiting him
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 3518, Kerset wrote:
In post 3484, Ydrasse wrote:yeah i think the simplest solve for me rn is plus/kerset/osuka.
So your idea is that plus as my partner could avoid voting me untill the end? My wagon had 0 reluctance, this would be a suicide.
so?
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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:41 pm

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In post 3644, Kerset wrote:
In post 3533, bob3141 wrote:Kerset today you have not realy said so far who you think is scum.

You made a post bashing saude. You have not even claimed who you protected and why. So who then?
I said yesterday that teacher, the flips didn't affect this read. Sorry that i haven't fully solved this game yet for you, i am still researching.

Andre. This is what smart scum would kill, his delayed claim suggested active power, he tried to lay low and wasn't really scumreaded by anyone. You should remember about skill level clue in lylo, it may safe the game. Also later you will see why is it bad idea to pursue gated pr about n1.
A. There are three scum. Having one scumread is??????
B. Are you saying Andres is a scumread?????
C. Does either of these come with reasons? And yes, repeating them is fine because it is impt to tell whether your stance has evolved at all over the 100-odd pages since you adopted them. For example, I could come up with a town!doc’s reason to suspect me before I outted the info
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:29 pm

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Just hammer Kerset now. this is obvscum and im not sure what else we can get out from today. Plusjoy's latevote is scummy but I think scum today just busses kerset for cred? idk

Completely no gamesolving attempt and this isn't a protown mindset. Opinions are "teacher is scum" AND NO OTHER READS?? Please look at the andre line and see how it's blatant fence sitting and shading.

once NDmath comes I'd like kerset to be insta hammered
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