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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:41 am

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In post 948, Iecerint wrote:
In post 940, Galron wrote:I think [Iecerint's] answer in was odd in that [Iecerint] had extended commentary for each one of [IKS's] selected players.
What do you mean by "odd"? How is "extended commentary," either in general or as reflected in my post, related to "oddness"?
Having deep reads on 19 players just a few days into a 20-player large is extraordinary. For IKS to seemingly pick seven random players, and you able to come up with extended reads a little more than an hour later on all seven is, well, unusual. Now, one of the players was yourself, so it wasn't really extended reads on seven players, and IKS has since, coincidentally, also addressed my question (in -- explaining how he came up with the list of players), but you have come up with an extended read of Bambi since. I find the whole effort commendable. I'm curious as to why you didn't just put those reads into your list to begin with?
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:47 am

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In post 949, a2rudeboy wrote:I'm just gonna sit here and wait for chkflip to catch up through 38pgs of nonsense
I predict more than one person, including myself, will be called something along the lines of a stupid mothertrucker.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:50 am

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In post 951, Galron wrote:
In post 949, a2rudeboy wrote:I'm just gonna sit here and wait for chkflip to catch up through 38pgs of nonsense
I predict more than one person, including myself, will be called something along the lines of a stupid mothertrucker.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:51 am

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In post 942, The Baker wrote:
chkflip repacks in for Nono
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:54 am

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Now I'm hungry for chicken.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:55 am

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In post 950, Galron wrote:
In post 948, Iecerint wrote:
In post 940, Galron wrote:I think [Iecerint's] answer in was odd in that [Iecerint] had extended commentary for each one of [IKS's] selected players.
What do you mean by "odd"? How is "extended commentary," either in general or as reflected in my post, related to "oddness"?
Having deep reads on 19 players just a few days into a 20-player large is extraordinary. For IKS to seemingly pick seven random players, and you able to come up with extended reads a little more than an hour later on all seven is, well, unusual. Now, one of the players was yourself, so it wasn't really extended reads on seven players, and IKS has since, coincidentally, also addressed my question (in -- explaining how he came up with the list of players), but you have come up with an extended read of Bambi since. I find the whole effort commendable. I'm curious as to why you didn't just put those reads into your list to begin with?
1. That's not the intuitive meaning of "odd."
2. Thanks I guess.
3A. Way too many words (especially in a post where the intention is to summarize the effect of my catch-up). No one would read that shit.
3B. I actually did briefly work on a post that had explanations within a spoiler'd button, but decided against it after I'd done 1-2 people in an extended way like that, because I realized that no one was going to read that shit.
3C. Now at least a couple of them may be read.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:55 am

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I would flip Ice or IKS right now.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:56 am

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In post 931, Iecerint wrote:(during my initial readthrough I paused and read his catch-up a couple of times)
Reminder that reading is effort and you can't always gauge a player's effort merely by their posting.
I for one consider that having two eyes and one virtual mouth means that I should read more than post.
The quality of what one does post is what matters. The catchup by Iecerint looked extremely genuine.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:57 am

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I dunno what "deep reads" means, though. Like, my list is ordinal. The top is most town, the bottom is least town. The town folks near the NULL section are progressively weaker townreads.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:32 am

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Galron talks like they are an alt, and not a noob, which makes this push on icerint for the reasons stated preeetty scummy.

Iks continues to randomly support any push in a 100 ft. radius of them.

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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:38 am

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I mean, it seems like he's claiming that it wasn't a push at all? I'm waiting for him to say more.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 946, Starbuck wrote:I think the question should be posed to you, though. Are you scum, Titus?
No. I am 3p with a goal for everyone to have fun remember?
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:42 am

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This game feels static. I might have to do something.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:57 am

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In post 881, Bambi Jay wrote:Well if they were in last game I'm guessing they're waiting until Goofball bites the dust. Or they aren't gonna pull an Alch and make their wincon unwinnable by revealing too early.
Wait, are you an alt, or did you just watch/read the last game?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:58 am

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In post 924, Almost50 wrote:
In post 889, a2rudeboy wrote:yeah we need a mod
:P
selective post-quoting. i see what you did there.


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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 963, Iecerint wrote:
In post 881, Bambi Jay wrote:Well if they were in last game I'm guessing they're waiting until Goofball bites the dust. Or they aren't gonna pull an Alch and make their wincon unwinnable by revealing too early.
Wait, are you an alt, or did you just watch/read the last game?
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:21 am

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WTF
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:21 am

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In post 962, Titus wrote:This game feels static. I might have to do something.
Your ISO leaves a lot to be desired, like you say I'm acting weird, but I don't know this side of you.

Do you have any reads? Care to share?
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:22 am

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Do they always play in these respective ways? Have you played with them under both accounts?
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:29 am

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Galron - Weak town, worried by his Iec push.
2. Gamma Emerald - Town
3. DrippingGoofball - Town
4. PookyTheMagicalBear - Town
5. Titus - Fun Spreader
6. Lavender - Who? Scum by PoE
7. Bambi Jay - weak town
8. TiphaineDeath - weak scum
9. WaltertheDunce10 - scum by lack of action
10. BrightEyedFish - Town
11. NoPowerOverMe - Moderate town
12. Almost50 - Where is he? NAI for him. Null
13. pisskop Papa Zito - Null, giving a chance to redeem
14. Looker - Would lynch
15. Iecerint - Town
16. Doctor Drew - Town
17. Starbuck - Lean scum
18. a2rudeboy - Town
19. Princess Leia - Would lynch
20. I Keep Siteflaking - Survivalistic but likely floated as a viable mislynch bc no wagon on him
21. Nono - Let's see what chkflip does
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:41 am

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Bambi Jay identity is mostly scum in completed large games from what I can tell, so it's hard to do a decent meta dive. Play as Near (looks like Town, the one example I found) in DeathNote shows high engagement and lots of participation in set-up speculation, but that's probably caused by being Near in DeathNote. As scum they tend to start kinda like this (though they're a little breezier than is typical in this game I think) and shift more into Elsa-posting/split object relations near endgame.

Not a super useful meta dive. Maybe I missed some games.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:47 am

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I like that Titus did post a list,
Titus was this in response to 962 or 967?
Genuine posting from Ice on a meta dive.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:52 am

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@Mod, please update OP with replacements when you're set.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 965, Titus wrote:
In post 963, Iecerint wrote:
In post 881, Bambi Jay wrote:Well if they were in last game I'm guessing they're waiting until Goofball bites the dust. Or they aren't gonna pull an Alch and make their wincon unwinnable by revealing too early.
Wait, are you an alt, or did you just watch/read the last game?
Bambi Jay and Elsa Jay are the same person.
In post 966, Iecerint wrote:WTF
Did the last name not give a hint we we're related? It felt like a huge sign.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:16 am

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It makes sense in hindsight, but did not occur to me until it was pointed out to me. I had read the thread assuming you were not related to Elsa in any way.

I think you did allude to a non-alt account during the last Baker game (as Elsa, in the context of my asking if it was an alt account with a deliberately abrasive style), but I don't remember what you said that account was named, and I still can't remember specifically whether Bambi was that account, or if it was a third account.
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