Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[April Ludgate]

And regardless, do you not agree this conversation is entirely beneficial to town anyways?

[April Ludgate]

I have a production meeting starting, so I’ll be mia for a few hours.

[zMuffinMan]

fferycabd,

also if you want to know why i am still not town-reading you, it's because nothing you've done so far is something i think deviates from how you'd play this game as scum. since you asked about that a few pages back

your approach to me isn't outside my expectations here

and you keep asking questions that just look ok on the surface

and i'm monitoring how you're interacting with other people i think are scum and nothing outside of the realm of possibility there either

so

there

if you are town, take it as a badge of honour that i rate your play that highly though. you're not as easy to read as some other people

[morph the cat]

Both.

I think you’re enthusiastic town.
I think muffin, for aforementioned reasons, is playing from the town playbook.
But maybe I shouldn’t make so many assumptions so quickly. As stated, when I don’t feel well I get overconfident.

The problem here is that muffin is currently in condescending mode, which both saps my will to post during times he is around to nitpick, and ruins any chance of cohesion in townblocking, if you're right.

[morph the cat]

Touhou Imperishable night. The arguments between zmuffin and pieguyn are relevant, but the whole game is one huge wtf. Bonus: A GiF scum game (hydra with Nacho). https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=32587

Marketplace III. Of particular interest here is an interminable spat with Nero Cain (who was also scum, but not on the same team -- they won together but they didn't know the composition of the two teams). Interminable spats with Nero do happen as both alignments. There are differences. When this happened in another game where I was (correctly) reading zmuffin as town, it was different. It was more of "I'd rather lose this game than lose this argument" vibe, rather than "lets clog up this thread with a lot of unreadable shit just for the lulz." https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=32587

Partition Mafia: This was a relatively recent game, also coming back after a hiatus. This game had a unique mechanic that shaped his strategy: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76227

Bell, you're someone whose opinion of zmuffin's meta vs here would mean a lot to me. This hydra does not have a great track record of catching scum-zmuffin. I doubt I'd even be considering the possibility of him being scum if he hadn't started verbally shoving me around. I tend to hold grudges for a couple games after I feel like someone's intentionally screwed up my effectiveness to read them or knocked me off my stride.

[April Ludgate]

For what it’s worth, when I first started my Flavor Leaf account, I replaced into a newbie (not as a newbie), but not as an SE, and I caught GIF scum and read CabdTown pretty easily, so if I tend to trust my gut there, at least early game, I probably will. Now that I know Morph is Cabd/ffery, I’ll probably do a reanalysis. I don’t think it changes anything, but it can’t do anything but help if I relook it over.

[zMuffinMan]

i'm not in condescending mode rofl

why do people have so much trouble reading my tone

nothing in this game has made me upset. and nothing i've written was meant to be condescending

[morph the cat]

"I'm sorry you think I'm being a jerk" doesn't make you less of being a jerk.

[Secret Tunnel]

Its probably the avatar change. If you go back to the old one it'll prob fix it muffin

I don't hate anything April's posted.

[zMuffinMan]

literally have no idea what you're even talking about cabd

[morph the cat]

Do you HONESTLY think that in a world where we start townreading you, I want anything to do with you as far as working together right now?


Now mind you of course this also asumes you drop the "OMG SCUM FFERYCABD" bullshit, but humor me.

[zMuffinMan]

i don't really care if you want to work with me, but also don't really understand what you're referring to

[morph the cat]

You're doing your shit where you play chess in your PT and checkers in the game thread like you did in dancegame, but then you expect everyone else to have the time and effort to connect the dots between the two.

[Bell]

@morph, okay will do. But I always felt you overestimated me.
@mudfin/everyone else does FF /cabs make 1153 as scum?

[morph the cat]

Only this time we don't live in a world where you're an IC, so I have to try and determine if ANYTHING here is genuine on top of that.

[Bell]

He’s right about the town block thing.
Though it might have been an unfortunate scum block in there. But a block of some sort.

[April Ludgate]

I play Go in my PT, and Yugioh in the game thread.

[morph the cat]

I don't have the spoons for this shit any more.

I'm going to go calm down and play blocks with my daughter.

[April Ludgate]

My town block is Morph, SS, Bell, Plus.

[zMuffinMan]

You're doing your shit where you play chess in your PT and checkers in the game thread like you did in dancegame, but then you expect everyone else to have the time and effort to connect the dots between the two.

that's not what i'm doing here

my PT has less stuff in it than you're probably guessing it does, though it's true i've been organising thoughts there more than in game

there's no chess there, checkers here though

[Bell]

Look at how stressed he is.
I feel like a sucker if he’s scum.

[April Ludgate]

I wanna put Alisae in it just for gigglies

[Bell]

Plz don’t

[zMuffinMan]

@cabd,
oh you mean because i asked you to connect the dots with the april thing?

i guess that's partially an issue with me not thinking about others not keeping track of people's reads lol

not a chess checkers thing

april's scum pool before adding me/bork was alisae/prism/mariar. i said i liked this before he added me/bork to it

[April Ludgate]

I think Ali’s town.

Even in a world where ZMuffles is too.