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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 490, shellyc wrote:
In post 476, Fidget wrote:Please Titus! I'll make you votecounts if you stop suspecting me!! I'm just so scared..
don't try and use AtE now have a nice day
pls stop just saying logical fallacies like it means anything o/
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In post 485, shellyc wrote:
In post 477, PlusJOYED wrote:shit bros my mafia processing power is having trouble booting im in too many games
i do think pete is sus though UNVOTE:
VOTE: pete
this is close to a prodge

there's a noticable difference between town!plus and this read-sheeping which doesn't indicate a town mindset at all
I agree with this.

If Plusjoy is scum, it suggests scum value you over Pickaxe Pete.
aren't we all vanilla what do they get keeping one or the other?

and major doubt that we have two scum wagons d1 lmfao
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:40 am

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Nosferatu, wanna join my townblock?
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:45 am

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depends on who's in it
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:52 am

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eh, just us currently. Maybe EddieFenix too. I just looked at 1 scumgame and 1 towngame, and he played much more townie than this in the scumgame, and similarly scummy to this in the towngame. Plus he has a tell which he did in the towngame and this one, but not in the scumgame.

Hence, begrudgingly, probs town here.
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Nightkilled - 10
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:09 am

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ah fk it, it's shellyc ain't it? :lol:

have read through all her past games (she was scum in all bar 1), and she had a prolific tell across most of the scumgames which she didn't use in the towngame. That's good enough for me. I guess a shelly scumflip makes Pete look bad anyway, but I'm good with the meta approach first.
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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

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winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:10 am

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: Shellyc
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 490, shellyc wrote:
In post 476, Fidget wrote:Please Titus! I'll make you votecounts if you stop suspecting me!! I'm just so scared..
don't try and use AtE now have a nice day
What are you even talking about
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In post 429, Battle Mage wrote:If Pickaxe Pete flips scum, I'm still pretty interested in Tayl0r tomorrow, although in a funny way she's so erratic and inconsistent it feels too conspicuously bad to be scum. Also, completely happy getting the heat if he flips town. I don't really get a vibe that he is happy and enthusiastic to be here.
too scummy to be scum isn't valid logic and taylor looks bad

what if it's taylor / pickaxe / plusjoy here gg
What happened to the other 5 or so people you've thrown shade on?

I'm starting to sound like Pete now oh no
In post 491, shellyc wrote:fidget is a gut TR (but might have me pocketed) and titus' VCA attempt is *wrong* but still an attempt so +townpoints

dripping goofball currently voteparking on me which is bleh but their entrance seemed pretty town
I'm not even sure how to read shelly at this point, I'm not sure how a gut TR correlates with pocketing her and she doesn't explain it. And I don't think Titus' VCA gets townpoints for just being an attempt because clearly Titus does VCA consistently

I do tend to like people who are flip floppy and don't explain themselves too much, because that's just aimless behavior that usually doesn't earn anyone's favor. You're just saying what you think as it pops up. Her play vaguely reminds me of that, if she really is this hyper paranoid person she's making herself out to be, scumreading almost everything.

But at the same time the reads are really not that deep or hard to come up with, and expressing that you're suspicious of almost everyone is a low effort, very convenient way to have your votes always be justified
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:12 am

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hi BM, fantastic timing
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:13 am

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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:15 am

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my pleasure, you forgot to vote Shelly though. You can get in the illustrious townbloc if you do!
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:17 am

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In post 520, Battle Mage wrote:my gut feels are saying Eddie Fenix is scum.
In post 521, Battle Mage wrote:looking at his ISO again, I'm pretty content sending him to trial today too.

Can I townblock anyone to make things slightly easier?
In post 528, Battle Mage wrote:eh, just us currently. Maybe EddieFenix too. I just looked at 1 scumgame and 1 towngame, and he played much more townie than this in the scumgame, and similarly scummy to this in the towngame. Plus he has a tell which he did in the towngame and this one, but not in the scumgame.

Hence, begrudgingly, probs town here.
BM is already consensus town by this point but this progression is probably towny
In post 525, Nosferatu wrote:aren't we all vanilla what do they get keeping one or the other?

and major doubt that we have two scum wagons d1 lmfao
And Nos is town too

pedit: yess thank uu

VOTE: shelly
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:19 am

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shelly, that's -1, if you have a town PR, time to claim!
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 505, Battle Mage wrote:Eh, this is stating the obvious? If Plusjoy-scum voted for Pete, he probably wanted to eliminate Pete rather than Shelly. You could have told me what that might mean for their alignments, or made an inference of some kind, rather than just re-state what is evident from the post you quoted.
No. It's a sign given in context. If Shelley C was town, her play benefits scum if PlusJoy is scum. She thought he was. Saying that to her is a wake up call to be more town and a failsafe I use to prevent tunneling.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 515, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 514, Titus wrote:
In post 513, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 512, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 418, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 364, Tayl0r Swift wrote:nos - light town
how
what am i chopped liver?
initially i had you as light town for townreading me, which i assumed was a metaread. but that has since changed to a bit of a scumread - your posts are mostly fluff, light on analysis, and you've been hopping your vote around quite a lot while sheeping. i expect more and better content from you. and the townread on me could just as easily be an attempt to pocket.
Read: You voted the scum partner nakedly.
your take is that nos is scum with shelly?
No. My read is your read suddenly changed based on his vote.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:23 pm

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In post 519, Vecna wrote:why are you townreading me titus? some details would be welcome
I'm not townreading you. I am not scumreading you either. I am deliberately waiting to see how you react to others to sort you.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:27 pm

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In post 529, Battle Mage wrote:have read through all her past games (she was scum in all bar 1), and she had a prolific tell across most of the scumgames which she didn't use in the towngame. That's good enough for me. I guess a shelly scumflip makes Pete look bad anyway, but I'm good with the meta approach first.
Can you elaborate on this meta tell?

Also can you elaborate on why a shelleyC scumflip makes Pete look bad?
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:59 pm

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In post 497, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i think youve seen me enough to know that thats exactly how town!me operates
nope that's not how town!you operates end of convo
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:00 pm

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In post 498, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i do agree that i expect a bit more from both plus and nos, but dunno if i really know either of them well enough to say its a scumtell.
town!joyed produces reads (albeit not super accurate ones, no offence) but scum!joyed pokes around and tries to look cute.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:01 pm

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VOTE: PlusJoy
pressure vote, also my biggest SR atm
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:02 pm

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In post 500, Battle Mage wrote:who was i talking about? need some context here, then we can dive together
sorry, meant to quote above as well it refers to pob long

since I'm nullish on them I want to see why you're TR'ing
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 503, Battle Mage wrote:i dont really know what point you're trying to make here? Spam filler, painted as something intellectual.
you think taylor is TSTBS which doesn't make sense imo

taylor's just plain scummy here (even though their townplay is pretty scummy? idk)
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 506, Battle Mage wrote:If you wanted to post a readslist, I would be interested to read it. Incidentally, that goes for anyone. I might even do one of my own at some point.
sure I can dive everyone's ISO this afternoon probably
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 513, Tayl0r Swift wrote:initially i had you as light town for townreading me, which i assumed was a metaread. but that has since changed to a bit of a scumread - your posts are mostly fluff, light on analysis, and you've been hopping your vote around quite a lot while sheeping. i expect more and better content from you. and the townread on me could just as easily be an attempt to pocket.
the word "light" triggers me

this is fence-sitting
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 525, Nosferatu wrote:aren't we all vanilla what do they get keeping one or the other?

and major doubt that we have two scum wagons d1 lmfao
plusjoy has played games with me before. (albeit me rolling scum and him rolling town)

I'm pocketable
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:07 pm

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In post 529, Battle Mage wrote:ah fk it, it's shellyc ain't it?

have read through all her past games (she was scum in all bar 1), and she had a prolific tell across most of the scumgames which she didn't use in the towngame. That's good enough for me. I guess a shelly scumflip makes Pete look bad anyway, but I'm good with the meta approach first.
did I keep using the word
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Appeal to Emotion

Meta is trash, nothing can change my mind

and nope! try again. you're wrong
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