Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[PenguinPower]

These tuxedoed bastards are swimming in cold water! How dare they conform to their well-established patterns and preferences.

link to VC on this page

[beeboy]

I personally was of the belief mass claiming what we were doing is bad.
Some of us are going to be doing correct things and some of us won't be.

I'd rather not scum kill the people doing what they believe is bad to them.

I am not going to pretend I have reads at this point. (page 4)

[beeboy]

I lied I hard town read Bingle.

[beeboy]

I think Bingle's scum tier list is a pretty townie thought process, it's a super weird angle to just open the game up thinking "I want to fake this".
I think comments on whether or not the list is accurate like CM1 and ABRs are totally null. Once the thought is on the table it's not a very hard one to add onto or go against.
So I guess it's not that what Bingle did was hard to fake or even risks there position as scum in some way long term. It's just abstract in such a way it's not something I think scum would care to fake.

[beeboy]

Okay all this set up spec is just confusing to me

I'd just like to say this is why I only have one read lmao.

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 1.007
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	Fun and Games	EL-6	2	3	3	SirCakez
GeorgeBailey	None	EL-7	3	3	4	GeorgeBailey
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	SirCakez	EL-6	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	1	Nosferatu
DoctorPepper	Ydrasse	EL-6	3	3	3	DoctorPepper
PenguinPower	Pine	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	DoctorPepper, Gamma Emerald	EL-5	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	Bingle, PenguinPower, Nosferatu, Albert B. Rampage	EL-3	3	3	3	Ydrasse
beeboy	None	EL-7	3	3	3	beeboy
Not Voting	GeorgeBailey, beeboy, CreativeMod1
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-27 23:16:10)
Notes: DoctorPepper is V/LA until Sept 25 pagetops: Lilith 4 | penguin 4 | ABR 1

[beeboy]

I am against voting Ydrassa on principle, I really just don't like voting new players in playerlists like this that have a good range of experienced players in them.
From experience the scum hit rate on doing that is extremely low, not to mention new players tend to just be very easy to read as a game moves on because they just don't have a near comparable range to most players in this game.

If we keep moving forward with the game I guess I am just not going to hard veto the idea but ehhh..


Town is playing at a pretty slow pace, I am not talking about this game having 10 pages, it's even the content in them. Scum are likely matching the pace but want to seem proactive which makes me immidiately look at ABR and Cakez for wagoning a completely afk player. Who doubles as being declared as afk through a VLA.

PP thinking about how the afk players are making the game rough on his ability to sort could be an ever so slight town ping from the sense he is trying to figure out what is going on and why his ability to solve is being gutted. But honestly that is easy to fake so it's staying in the "ever so slight town ping" zone for now.

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: sircakez

this is an overdue vote, i didn’t mind being on doctorpepper (DOCTORpepper) but i’ve been pinged a few times by sir. 35, 88, 129 are the main offenders.

sircakez, do you consider yourself an oblivious person?

[beeboy]

If you want me to be honest I don't see myself voting Cakez day 1 either.

[SirCakez]

I am against voting Ydrassa on principle, I really just don't like voting new players in playerlists like this that have a good range of experienced players in them.
From experience the scum hit rate on doing that is extremely low, not to mention new players tend to just be very easy to read as a game moves on because they just don't have a near comparable range to most players in this game.

If we keep moving forward with the game I guess I am just not going to hard veto the idea but ehhh..


Town is playing at a pretty slow pace, I am not talking about this game having 10 pages, it's even the content in them. Scum are likely matching the pace but want to seem proactive which makes me immidiately look at ABR and Cakez for wagoning a completely afk player. Who doubles as being declared as afk through a VLA.

PP thinking about how the afk players are making the game rough on his ability to sort could be an ever so slight town ping from the sense he is trying to figure out what is going on and why his ability to solve is being gutted. But honestly that is easy to fake so it's staying in the "ever so slight town ping" zone for now.

I didn't realize you were V/LA ftr I thought you were just lurking that's why I moved my vote when I found out.

VOTE: sircakez

this is an overdue vote, i didn’t mind being on doctorpepper (DOCTORpepper) but i’ve been pinged a few times by sir. 35, 88, 129 are the main offenders.

sircakez, do you consider yourself an oblivious person?

In some contexts sure

I haven't seen any reason to vote ydrasse other then people saying to just do it?

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: sircakez

this is an overdue vote, i didn’t mind being on doctorpepper (DOCTORpepper) but i’ve been pinged a few times by sir. 35, 88, 129 are the main offenders.

sircakez, do you consider yourself an oblivious person?

UNVOTE: ydrasse
ive actually changed my mind, i have no doubt in my mind that ydrasse is town after this post

i believe there is no way as scum at E-3 scum!ydrasse decides to make a post this bad

for my next act
VOTE: creativemod1

[Ydrasse]

all according to plan

[SirCakez]

for my next act
VOTE: creativemod1

Who?

[Nosferatu]

its a reappearing act, my peers won't allow me to divulge how it works

[Albert B. Rampage]

you want me to be honest I don't see myself voting Cakez day 1 either.

Welcome to the game

[Bingle]

I lied I hard town read Bingle.

Dammit, bee.

[Bingle]

Shit. I think I just cast myself as Yosemite Sam.

This should be interpreted as foreshadowing.

[Bingle]

Okay all this set up spec is just confusing to me

I'd just like to say this is why I only have one read lmao.

To clarify, are you saying there's too much NAI mechspec or that there are too many people complaining about being lost in the mechspec?

[Fun and Games]

My impression of past games where we were both town is that we tend to clash on our views of the thread quite a bit.

And my wagon on Ydrasse is way more valuable if there are in fact dissenting viewpoints, so...

Who do you think is worth poking with pitchforks and why?

first sentence: i don't remember that being the case, but i could well be wrong!

last sentence: idk yet. it's a p slow game and i don't have enough info/data yet to be able to answer this satisfactorily; i don't have reads on a vast majority of the game yet

~ games

[Fun and Games]

Wagons are good.

Make another.

VOTE: Fun and Games
Okay

FOS: Gamma

y are you fos'ing gamma here?

~ games

[Fun and Games]

I think Bingle's scum tier list is a pretty townie thought process, it's a super weird angle to just open the game up thinking "I want to fake this".
I think comments on whether or not the list is accurate like CM1 and ABRs are totally null. Once the thought is on the table it's not a very hard one to add onto or go against.
So I guess it's not that what Bingle did was hard to fake or even risks there position as scum in some way long term. It's just abstract in such a way it's not something I think scum would care to fake.

i dont' have such great vibes from beeboy

~ games

[Gamma Emerald]

Wagons are good.

Make another.

VOTE: Fun and Games
Okay

FOS: Gamma

y are you fos'ing gamma here?

~ games

Y aren’t u?

[SirCakez]

Wagons are good.

Make another.

VOTE: Fun and Games
Okay

FOS: Gamma

y are you fos'ing gamma here?

~ games

Y aren’t u?

scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you think I was being serious

[SirCakez]

irrelevant. it's just the kind of post scum frequently makes.