Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[April Ludgate]

Yeah, you are totally right, Remelia. Had that moving too fast before finishing conversation kinda moment.

We pretty much counter that apathy by creating environments now, town can take strong day action to gain reads.

Not to be LAMIST, but I am feeling so confidently town this game, I’m gonna say the cliche and go “I’m 100% dying tonight.”

I bet scum feel my hunter blood coming out hard right now. You may be fooling me now, scum, but the flavor will always follow you, ow ow ow.

[April Ludgate]

....April if you say that out right you’re just saying what you think and other players compensate for that plan.
But down the rabbit hole we go when I think, “well okay they’re saying what they think, but if the scum team players around that and April knows this, then he’s just saying this to seem town by saying whatever he thinks town/town him thinks”

Yeah, that’s part of it. It’s really hilarious to think about how scum have to react to that kind of thing knowing that I know they know, ya know?

[PlusJOYED]

i like this play, i'm just unsure of how useful it will be for scumhunting purposes.

[Bell]

They’re probably just going to give you a wide berth, wait for you to possibly discredit yourself by continuing to talk like a self-help guru selling a book and your reads may or may not suffer for it.

[PlusJOYED]

i also think this could really be done with any player, not just muffin

[zMuffinMan]

heh. your view of the game state is so wildly different from mine. i sincerely doubt you're a priority night kill

and votes are hardly the only way to get reads or the only form of "direct action" lol

[April Ludgate]

Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.

I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.

[PlusJOYED]

though I wonder if it's possible the main wagons atm are all scum, and they're waiting for a mislim wagon to start up? though that's a more optimistic line of thinking than I like
@muffin, what's your read on mariaR?

[April Ludgate]

heh. your view of the game state is so wildly different from mine. i sincerely doubt you're a priority night kill

and votes are hardly the only way to get reads or the only form of "direct action" lol

This is what I like to have presented in real time. Hindsight always shows 2020 4 20

[April Ludgate]

though I wonder if it's possible the main wagons atm are all scum, and they're waiting for a mislim wagon to start up? though that's a more optimistic line of thinking than I like
@muffin, what's your read on mariaR?

While not impossible, I find this highly unlikely, and thus worth keeping in mind, but not look into too deeply Day 1.

[PlusJOYED]

Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.

I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.

the townblock you just made not too long ago? I don't think SS had a chance to see that it was like 10 minutes ago

[zMuffinMan]

she has a virtually barren ISO and could be scum

why do you think i'm asking her to talk about her reads? lol

[Remilia Scarlet]

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I

Walk me through how you got to where you are on plusjoyed
I'm willing to concede I might've just taken a major wrong turn at Albuquerque on bell
What happened to Morph?

-b

[Bell]

I stole the walk me through thing from Bork ngl.

[PlusJOYED]

I stole the walk me through thing from Bork ngl.

i could see why a dog would like to be walked

[Remilia Scarlet]

I stole the walk me through thing from Bork ngl.

reading my old games too? (don't i'm terrible)

-b

[April Ludgate]

Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.

I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.

the townblock you just made not too long ago? I don't think SS had a chance to see that it was like 10 minutes ago

Nah, I made one a while ago.

And I know. He didn’t do anything I didn’t like, it’s just he didn’t do anything I did like, just because he’s been MIA. I know him well enough to know I should also not fully town read him yet.

[Bell]

I stole the walk me through thing from Bork ngl.

reading my old games too? (don't i'm terrible)

-b

No. I was fairly obsessed with mafia and I burned all my games I played with people into my brain from multiple post game rereads.
I liked the walk me through post you made from majiffy’s gonzo mafia game. It’s a good lead in for requesting clarity from another player or answering a question and puts me into the right mind set to see if the narrative they’re spinning makes sense.

[April Ludgate]

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I

Walk me through how you got to where you are on plusjoyed
I'm willing to concede I might've just taken a major wrong turn at Albuquerque on bell
What happened to Morph?

-b

While I think Morph definitely is townie, I can see them being in that position as scum, if that makes sense. Without more info presented, it’s really easy to get into that dominating game state position, town leader, basically.

Plus had been weirdly fence sitting in a way that looks genuine because of how much they were doing it, where scum would try not to have it on blast if they were fence sitting. On top of that, they’ve seemed extremely present and trying to figure things out even if it’s not working out too well for em just yet. They may be onto something, but Day 1 is just too early to tell. Their zMuffinman scum read might be wrong, but I understand the suspicion surrounding zMuffinman in this game, and I feel Plus is picking up the same type of energy as I am and mistaking it for a full on scum read.

And that’s a townie mindset because they’re being taken on a ride, almost not able to see the strings being pulled in the background somewhere, if that makes sense.

[Secret Tunnel]

@cabd what did you think of marias readslist

[April Ludgate]

Right, Secret Tunnel’s a big scum spect too

[PlusJOYED]

so wait im confused and tired April
you fake TR remilla and SS a while back
remilla didn't do anything and neither did SS
because of that, you actually TR them since they didn't react? So because they didn't question you, they become town to you?
It feels like you're playing with the spotlight effect on yourself to the max; you consider all of your posts to be the centerpiece of this. That could come from town, but seems more likely to come from scum; extremely self aware.

[morph the cat]

Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.

I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?

Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.

Sorry, there's a townbloc already in progress. You're still in the to-be-sorted pile.

[Secret Tunnel]

Right, Secret Tunnel’s a big scum spect too

Have fun with that I won't be clownable by the end of today

[morph the cat]

@cabd what did you think of marias readslist

I think cabd's still grilling steaks. We'll be seriously getting back to this game pretty soon.