Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bell]

S_S seems more like debugging software than a player this game. He’s different than both games I played with him before.
He keeps posting in his scum pt and that kind of breaks my heart.

MariaR, I don’t know what to make of her or her reads.

Muffin. Yeah. You’re gunna be a while. You’re surface townie, but you scare me.

[morph the cat]

yeah, it's not a reads list.

Anyway, there's some differences in our thinking, looks like. will be interesting to hash out when everyone's awake enough to type words and stuff.

I feel bad zmuffin, this thread goes quiet in your evening, but I can't stay awake all my night.

Well, I can, but then I wind up being an insomniac for a week or so.

[Bell]

Game will probably be here tomorrow.

[morph the cat]

S_S seems more like debugging software than a player this game. He’s different than both games I played with him before.
He keeps posting in his scum pt and that kind of breaks my heart.

MariaR, I don’t know what to make of her or her reads.

Muffin. Yeah. You’re gunna be a while. You’re surface townie, but you scare me.

S_S is different from the games I played (actually both were morph games), too. but they were 2 years ago. I figured there's some natural style change/growth to catch up on. This game is requiring homework.

[Bell]

For s_s I think he’s probably appropriately hunting.

[Something_Smart]

S_S seems more like debugging software than a player this game.

I love this simile.

[zMuffinMan]

You’re surface townie, but you scare me.

is it my avatar? i can change it to something more friendly if you want

i was thinking something like this:

Spoiler:

[Bell]

Isn’t that, that immortal girl?

[zMuffinMan]

indeed

[Bell]

Keep her, she has potential.

[zMuffinMan]

i only chose this one because i decided to hydra with someone in a game and he used to have an isaac avatar

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10248315

[zMuffinMan]

that in-game-only hydra lasted for two games, but fell apart in the second game when i started hearing voices in my head

[zMuffinMan]

this thread goes quiet in your evening

every night, i contemplate writing 10 pages by myself just to make you all suffer what i have to suffer when i wake up in the morning

[PlusJOYED]

Morph

Way down here.
Midwaybear
My phone keeps selecting all making this more annoying than usual.
Way down a little more.
Remi.

I give April a very small town lean. Like, minuscule.

Bicycle is being fairly proactive. Small lean town.
IAI/NS are being weird.
Plusjoyed seems more comfortable in a way that I just don’t understand.

Maybe scum:
Alisae. Aforementioned reasons.

Joke team option but maybe not actually a joke.

Bulge/st.
Muffin/s_S

@muffin are you voting alisae or have you just been fosing at her?

i don't agree with this list, (i could possibly see a ST/bulge team but unlikely) im working on my new readlist atm
as for me being more comfortable, well, the completed games before I had to fight for my life the entire time, whereas here I've seen very few people come after my throat, so I feel like I can solve and make reads in a temporary tranquility.

[PlusJOYED]

ok read through isos again, new readlist is here

each tier is ordered left to right from town to less town

town read: {Morph, bell}

townlean: {aliase, midway, SS}

weak townlean: {tunnels, april}

weak scumlean: {bulge}

scumlean: {remillia, maria}

scumread: {muffin, 420}

Morph: Very active, feels like the center of the town for me, and probably my strongest TR overall. Yet despite all that nothing from memory really pinged me as scummy which is impressive, and he really cemented themself with that readlist a while back which I love in post 800 (I'm a little biased to in depth readlists being a major towntell, I loved morphs honestly). I don't think I can be swayed to join a morph wagon anytime soon especially given the volume of their posts.

bell - I don't see bell as scum at all honestly. He had a really strong start and while I think he slowed down a bit he feels like the obvtown bell I played with in hedgehogs. He also feels a little unsure like before too.


aliase: Their catchup/stream of consciousness I really liked. Like someone else said, I think being late is a towntell; wouldn't your scumbuddies prod you asap once you didn't show up after like 800 posts? And none of their posts scumpinged me? That's enough for me to townlean them honestly but it's more subject to change due to less posts.

midway: Read through their iso, they seemed to have a solid towny mindset and have been encouraging discussion when they post, though I don't really get their bell read. They also ask a lot of questions which I like. Townlean.

SS: I've kinda liked what they've posted, especially 448 and 738, and haven't scumpinged me at all, but what they've done so far and pointed out (in terms of towny contributions) just isn't enough to move them higher compared to my other townleans/townreads.

tunnels: they seem to like meta more and I REALLY didn't like their early locktown read on bulge, it almost feels like tmi or a pocket as I said earlier. But besides that they seem pretty towny and solvey in their other posts. That scumping just holds them back a lot.

april: They feel very attention grabby to me and super self aware. Some times I like their play, other times I don't; they kind of cancel out honestly as far as placing them. A large part of the read is that I don't think it'd be smart for scum to make themselves the center of attention as they are trying to, but this could also be a very sneaky attempt to predict that reaction and disrupt discussion. Honestly my weakest townlean atm


bulge: I went into this before in more depth, since then they've been towny in places and I can see a bit of a solvey mindset at times but othertimes just a blank, scummy wall, but they've been going up lately. I'm going to look into them in a bit more depth later.

Remilla: Honestly, a lot of their posting style feels like it has a vibe of nervousness/frantic energy to it, which I really dislike (1292 through 1311 and 1379 specifically). And a bit of hesitation to interact in some posts (like 682, 875). I think their scumread on me is interesting but I don't really understand the reasoning. Their mindset seems a sort of towny I guess, they look as if they are trying to solve at times? But nothing they've posted really calls out to me as "this is town" Overall a scumlean I think after digging through their iso. But their volume and effort puts them above maria imo.

Maria: Their postcount/iso is pathetic. Refusing to read early on was a big red flag to me. I usually like readlists, but having theirs use another readlist as a reference and not having any explanation really scumpings me too. But I could also see them as apathetic town. Even so, right now they are a pretty sizeable liability to the town atm and I don't like it.

muffin: I'm not gonna dig through iso again, but my opinion on them hasn't really changed, and my gut agrees with me too. I think they're scum

420: I'm not the biggest fan of prisms slot, and all 420 has done so far is stall and troll, which is probably what I'd do if I replaced into a scumslot in that position; to really try to solve you need to read the damn thread, and they have refused to do so. Really not a good look at all. And they beat muffin because while I think a lot of muffins posts have been straight up scumplay, muffin at least has done some towny posts too where I don't think the 420 slot has really.

[PlusJOYED]

with that said, for now...
UNVOTE: muffin
VOTE: 420

[Bell]

You don’t seem to agree with my rem and Alisae reads, but otherwise our reads seem somewhat aligned.
I don’t see the stream of consciousness thing from alisae at all.
I don’t see the tmi From ST at all.

[morph the cat]

Quite a few points of convergence with our thoughts there. 2 out of 3 of our top townreads, in particular.

[zMuffinMan]

i've done 'towny' posts? tell me where and i'll ask the mod to redact them

[Something_Smart]

I was absolutely loving +J's readlist until I got to the Alisae read.

Oh well, I'll read the rest of it now. It's probably still fine.

[Something_Smart]

Update: it turns out the top two reads in that list are the only ones I really liked.

My theory is that +J's reads are not as pronounced as he's making them out to be and a lot of the people in the middle tiers were somewhat arbitrarily ordered.

[PlusJOYED]

You don’t seem to agree with my rem and Alisae reads, but otherwise our reads seem somewhat aligned.
I don’t see the stream of consciousness thing from alisae at all.
I don’t see the tmi From ST at all.

why would they hard town read bulge when so early when bulge had very few posts? That's what I think is either possibly TMI or some sort if pocket even despite ST'e protests on how a bulge pocket wouldn't work

explain scum!aliase to me then bell, cause I don't see it
town!rem too if you can

[PlusJOYED]

Update: it turns out the top two reads in that list are the only ones I really liked.

My theory is that +J's reads are not as pronounced as he's making them out to be and a lot of the people in the middle tiers were somewhat arbitrarily ordered.

please elaborate. I'd like to see your readlist too since I haven't sorted you as much as the others

[morph the cat]

town!rem too if you can

I hope you like reading chapter books soon, then.

[Tammy]

The same poppy plant that blooms with the fragrant red flowers often depicted in beautiful paintings, as well as produces poppy seeds to top breads and bagels, also makes the substances in heroin, one of the world's most highly addictive opiate drugs.