Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Tayl0r Swift]

VC on this page.

+ev townplay of two unconfirmeds

this is true, right? so i wonder if scum are framing the pair to get lunched or going the wifom route and actually don't want us to lunch them

first impression is they don't want us to lunch them, seeing as loki/ydrasse were both townleaning yesterday. which means we should lunch them :s

but i've always been a sucker for wifom, i don't know how much i should trust myself

i mean im biased because to me "the simple and obvious plan of [winning]" is simple and obvious. but i still am all for lunching there today and then ill towncase myself/scumcase NM tomorrow. i think there are enough mechanical reasons im not scum that this is the play for the rest of you too. but i think your reasoning here is right. +ev, and then sort in me and NM.

[Tayl0r Swift]

ydrasse, are you scum?

[Kanna]

i feel like i can solve taylor.....

r u pocketing me taylor

[Kanna]

mostly because i don't think i can solve loki/ydrasse/n_m

[Isis]

I think Loki is so obvtown it doesn't add much EV to look at Ydrasse rather than NM or Swift. Especially when you consider the way the scum probably approached the WIFOM, it might even be inverted.

[drusilla]

[Hectic]

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Votecount 2.1

[2] Isis:

Isis, PlusJOYED

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Lokie Dokie

[1] Not_Mafia:

Tayl0r Swift

[2] Not Voting:

Ydrasse, Not_Mafia

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to execute. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to execute.
The deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-30 19:51:07).

Joint Mod ISO.

VOTE: Ydrasse and Loki

Please vote for one person.

[Isis]

Drusilla I believe in you so much

[Isis]

I don't believe in Hectic

[Kanna]

hello

VOTE: Hectic

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse, are you scum?

No.

[Kanna]

i like to consider wifom because for scum, it's risky to bet a game on someone calling your wifom so the safer route is to not do it. therefore, i *should* consider it.

*taps bucket*

[Kanna]

fmopv, it's not wise to bet the game on 2 slots rather than 1 because there's more room for error. n_m is unreadable. so solving taylor is the way to go.

i will look through her iso and give thoughts hopefully soon

[Kanna]

Especially when you consider the way the scum probably approached the WIFOM, it might even be inverted.

although this is actually what happens most of the time

[Isis]

I just want to see more bucket tapping

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: Isis

VOTE: Isis

VOTE: isis

?????

I have no idea what you’re doing here.

[Isis]

I like to place my vote where I am leaning at the time to show what I'm thinking

[Loki Dokie]

But please ignore my entire ISO, which you clearly would have to be doing. Have you reread it? Please tell me what parts scream scum to you?

lol, those were my gut-takes coming into the day. no, i haven't done an in-depth reading yet and no, i don't think you're scummy - quite the opposite actually.

it's like you're so townie, i'm confused why you aren't confirmed, and in the case you are town and scum didn't confirm you to make us suspicious of your pair, i feel like they'd choose me for the job instead. after all, isis/drusilla, the two people who know me best among this list, were both paranoia-scumreading me and i was pushing them both for whatever reason. if i was scum, i would also confirm you every time. this situation is a strange curveball

Yeah, I agree. I apologize for getting salty with you earlier. My theory: either Tayl0r did it to make me look bad or Ydrasee is framing Tayl0r to make her look bad, because I’ve been hardpushing Tayl0r, so I suspect it’s somehow tied to that. If I were actually scum, I would never align myself with Ydrasse and not confirm her, so Dru’s theory makes way more sense if Ydrasse is scum than the converse but that is my best guess as to why it’s me specifically who was put into the unconfirmed position.

[Loki Dokie]

While I was away, I wondered, what if Swift didn't confirm Loki so that we wouldn't listen to him when he tunneled Swift.

Then I wondered, did Swift really didn't know whether scum is post restricted in the scum PT.

You saw the announcement that they are post restricted in the PT, right Ydrasse?

Where is this message? I suppose that’s possible. I honestly don’t know right now but I feel pretty confident it’s not NM and as long as I’m not wrong on that, we win no matter what.

[Loki Dokie]

It was implicit in the last readslit I gave Pooky that I had flipped on you Kanna. So the scum knew.

In hindsight Pooky fished beneficial information about the gamestate with his last breaths

in hindsight, pooky was also quite survivalistic in his last moments.

i am very glad you did not self vote

<3

+1

I would have (figuratively) smacked her if she had. I was like wtf are you even thinking?

[drusilla]

I would have (figuratively) smacked her if she had.

please NO on this.

[drusilla]

I like to place my vote where I am leaning at the time to show what I'm thinking

not mafia > ydrasse

[Loki Dokie]

I feel worried Pooky cares about winning an argument more than being town in the argument if that makes sense, its somewhat mafia indicative

This is kind of strange. Why would it make sense for a Pooky!scum to want to win an argument? It doesn't help my position in any way - arguing is usually counterproductive to survival especially in a setting like this where it's 1 or the other.

oh yeah, i remember seeing this earlier and having what is probably a dumb thought at it but isn't the simplest answer to wanting to win an argument that... whoever you "beat" might reconsider you/etc? like, i don't get how arguing is counterproductive in the sense that it's how you like... make people reconsider you, or is at least one way and one of the most straightforward.

i don't understand how it going one way or another makes a difference?

This post should solve Ydrasse for me if I was good at mafia

I can’t even tell you wtf she’s even saying here. I actually need to understand what she’s even saying before I can begin to parse it.

[Isis]

drusilla does that mean you want me to stop selfvoting?
it feels good.

[Loki Dokie]

solving Ydrasse wins the game.
solving Tayl0r wins the game.
solving N_M wins the game.

I don't feel confident doing any of these things but maybe Kanna or shiki will

Nothing really points to it being NM. He hammered Pooky on D1 and didn’t vote on D2. On D3, he only voted you after you scumread him and the way Pooky referenced him sounded completely neutral, so I still think he’s the least likely Pooky buddy out of the three.