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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 pm

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In post 1770, zMuffinMan wrote:it's easy to slip into that mindset when playing a game with people you haven't played with in ages

especially if you're nostalgic about games when you worked together with them in some way
I guess, but at least with morph, it seemed more of an appeal than an actual zest to work together.
For some reason, I sorta forgot about Something_Smart at the beginning of this game.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

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It’s not NAI because if they do it as both that tips the balance into 50/50 for them rather than more likely to be scum.
He said he couldn’t be frustrated by it, but yeah. He blocked his frustration but saying he might be angry if he wasn’t implies he doesn’t have friends in a pt to keep him company.
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 1768, Bell wrote:I don’t think an ultra self aware scum player would post about their ultra self awareness.
strictly untrue but probably more of a play style thing than an alignment thing. being self-aware means being aware of what talking about being self-aware means

that last sentence may or may not make sense, i am not sure. it made sense in my head though
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 1777, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 1768, Bell wrote:I don’t think an ultra self aware scum player would post about their ultra self awareness.
strictly untrue but probably more of a play style thing than an alignment thing. being self-aware means being aware of what talking about being self-aware means

that last sentence may or may not make sense, i am not sure. it made sense in my head though
Where's your ST read these days?
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 1776, Bell wrote:It’s not NAI because if they do it as both that tips the balance into 50/50 for them rather than more likely to be scum.
He said he couldn’t be frustrated by it, but yeah. He blocked his frustration but saying he might be angry if he wasn’t implies he doesn’t have friends in a pt to keep him company.
That's NAI then if it's 50/50?
I don't think he was referring to this game in particular with the hydra comment. Don't think that hold much water here.
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:12 pm

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In post 1740, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: Secret Tunnels
why is st scum?
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:12 pm

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That’s right muffin, i’m weighing whether a self aware player who is self aware and gets scum read for it would or would not delete those thoughts with a player list that has already been pretty meta heavy and with people he’s much more familiar with than I am. I dunno. I think it’s more the vagueness of everyone’s read on him with a weak hint of evaluation doesn’t really make a lot of sense for scum? He should at least have a direction by now if he were scum.
But I guess that plays more into whether he would do that as scum in a game where a lot of players know him.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:13 pm

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probably still town

im way behind in reading stuff in this game outside of a few ISOs i am slowly making my way through

that hasn't been a high prio sort beyond initial impression that noddy seems town enough
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 1778, morph the cat wrote:Where's your ST read these days?
what's yours?
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 1783, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 1778, morph the cat wrote:Where's your ST read these days?
what's yours?
Improved.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:15 pm

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much as I dont miss the memes, 420's fade is not a good look.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 1779, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1776, Bell wrote:It’s not NAI because if they do it as both that tips the balance into 50/50 for them rather than more likely to be scum.
He said he couldn’t be frustrated by it, but yeah. He blocked his frustration but saying he might be angry if he wasn’t implies he doesn’t have friends in a pt to keep him company.
That's NAI then if it's 50/50?
I don't think he was referring to this game in particular with the hydra comment. Don't think that hold much water here.
Yes and no.
It moves it from AI(scum are more aware of how they’re perceived, I don’t agree but w/e). A higher likelihood from scum NS than town NS.
To NAI where it’s prolly 50/50.
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 1784, morph the cat wrote:Improved.
improved to "not my first vote" or improved to town?
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:17 pm

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In post 1782, zMuffinMan wrote:probably still town

im way behind in reading stuff in this game outside of a few ISOs i am slowly making my way through

that hasn't been a high prio sort beyond initial impression that noddy seems town enough
It feels a little odd that you're poking at the theoretical basis of a ST read moving townward.
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:17 pm

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In post 1780, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 1740, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: Secret Tunnels
why is st scum?
I mean I already sort of outlined it, but I'm not really liking their approach to the game and how they haven't really talked much to people outside of familiars. This seems to be more of scumtell level 1, and not a lot of people seem to agree with me...
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:19 pm

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In post 1788, morph the cat wrote:It feels a little odd that you're poking at the theoretical basis of a ST read moving townward.
... sorry, what? if there's anything you should know about me, it's that i like inserting myself in lines of questioning and breaking down reads even if i agree with the conclusion

it's like you've never played with me before
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 1787, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 1784, morph the cat wrote:Improved.
improved to "not my first vote" or improved to town?
Well above not my first vote. nulltown

I love Rem's lonely hydra tell. He used it to read you as town in the hunterxhunterx game. It was a thought that had never occurred to me before. Hadn't personally had a lonely hydra experience up to that point.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:24 pm

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In post 1790, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 1788, morph the cat wrote:It feels a little odd that you're poking at the theoretical basis of a ST read moving townward.
... sorry, what? if there's anything you should know about me, it's that i like inserting myself in lines of questioning and breaking down reads even if i agree with the conclusion

it's like you've never played with me before
I know you like to do it. I also see the scum value in doing it a lot more than I used to. Getting to share Nacho's brain during that forest fire game should have had a more immediate effect. Every reread is a little more education.
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:26 pm

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maybe that would be a slightly valid way of looking at it if i didn't literally just tell april that i doubt he's right about any of those three reads (which included noddy hydra) being right
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 1791, morph the cat wrote:I love Rem's lonely hydra tell. He used it to read you as town in the hunterxhunterx game. It was a thought that had never occurred to me before. Hadn't personally had a lonely hydra experience up to that point.
at this point I can't tell if "Rem" is me or bell
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:28 pm

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contextually you must mean the latter

and guess who i was hydraing w/ in that game hmmmmm
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:31 pm

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Doesn't change my feeling about your post at all, muffin.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 1795, Remilia Scarlet wrote:contextually you must mean the latter

and guess who i was hydraing w/ in that game hmmmmm
Yeah sorry. I'll try to use Bell. I just have this weird superimposed avatar image in my head of Hobbs dancing with Snoopy.

Re who the hydra was, I know!
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:33 pm

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2.5/6

Hi giffy! Feeling better?

Morph where are you at re April? That slot I’m wavering back and forth on pretty heavily.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:34 pm

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I give morph points for recognizing and relatively naturally going into it.
It’s not as good as here, IMO. and i’m Not sure if it’s accurate, since I actually only used that tel once. And haven’t played with many hydras since I got back.

@muffin, do you feel close to making a vote or is that gunna be awhile?
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