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[duppin]

yes but just complaining about the state and not attempting to move it in a direction is suspicious to me. he seems to be complaining about the game state and being very careful with his reads (he essentially ended up only giving town reads) which to me indicate is trying to avoid confrontation while still appearing active. I am perfectly aware it might be too early to tell but that is the impression I am left with

redados SR'd saude, didnt he?

but you've made your point, I'll sort redados later as I have experience with them, for now I want to sort you + Grendel first

But he did absolutely nothing with it. He did not try to engage anyone or push which lead to me thinking he is trying to avoid confrontation.

[shellyc]

norway thoughts on grendal

tell me how their big wall is not fence sitting on everyones alignment and being agreeable

I agree with the sentiment that scum are likely to play the rational Richard in this scenario while town!Shelly is raging at other towns.
So yes, good place to put some pressure.
VOTE: Grendel

this is kinda sheepy tbh. dont think NEE would try pocketing me tho

[shellyc]

His towngame (from my experiences) is that he attacks a person (who's high chance of being scum) d1 quite hard

[shellyc]

But he did absolutely nothing with it. He did not try to engage anyone or push which lead to me thinking he is trying to avoid confrontation.

yeah you've managed to sell me that

i like your thoughts, they're like my subconscious thoughts that I haven't discovered yet

[shellyc]

im going to review redados meta tomorrow

second thought redados iso is scummier than I thought. looked pretty town in real time but is quite underwhelming. I'll explain with a big ugly quote wall

[shellyc]

quotewall alert on redados

Spoiler:

Hello fellow scum! I am also scum. What will our scumplan be in this game?

Redados did a similar thing in Newbie 2025 as town but it's an easy way to get towncred from people who read that game

I dont have much motivation to reply to your post @shelly bc it's just completely wrong. My slight suspicions on Redados are completely justified bc his opening definitely could be slightly AI.
You're seriously gonna tell me to "share reads" like 2 pages into the game?
fence sitting? 2 pages into the game you expect me to have a solid read?
I literally just replied to redados' post and said you landed a lot of scumroles. Thats a fact not an opinion so I dont see what's wrong there.
Shelly if ur town, the things ur using to SR me are weak as hell and maybe you should try to actually scumhunt instead of pick at me for no good reason.
if ur scum, then ur just setting me up as limbait after what's his face started sussing me(sorry I seriously dont remember the name and am too lazy to go back and check)

What Shelly is doing is pro-town cause she's moving the game out of RVS finally. I'm glad she did it.
VOTE: UNVOTE

I was leaning town on this post but I just realised I was probably pocketed for a bit there

What Shelly is doing is pro-town cause she's moving the game out of RVS finally. I'm glad she did it.

yay redados finally comes back to town!me

don't worry I will sus you on a dime and if ur scum then you need to NK me a$ap

Repeatedly suspecting me for meta reasons is trash

MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?

Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

In Doggos 2027 hosted by JacksonVirgo, Noraa was scum and was very active.

Providing meta info instead of solving.

I'm scumreading Saudade.

Does not elaborate. When I saw this in real time I thought they were town for going against my read but I just realised they didn't even place a vote

I'm also feeling scummy on Noraa and Shelly but can acknowledge to myself that it probably has less to do with alignment and more to do with playstyle.

stubbornly scumreading us gets nowhere

Town:
JV

Null:
Jester

Scum due to playstyle:
ShellyC
Noraa

Scum:
Saudade (but I have been told this is his town meta)

(but I have been told this is his town meta)

fence-sitty after I defend saude

hmmmm what is "scum due to playstyle"?

I have a sneaking suspicion that I will scumread you regardless of your alignment because of your aggressive playstyle.

redados for god's sake do you have something else to say rather than shelly + noraa scum because of playstyle can you solve for once oml

[duppin]

I may be wrong but did he just shade every single active slot in one way or another

So Saudade I have my own take on this but would like to hear yours first actually. Do you think this is a scumtell?

[Saudade]

What? Casting doubts at every slot you come across? Yeah it is

[NorwegianboyEE]

dont think NEE would try pocketing me tho

Reason being?

[duppin]

What? Casting doubts at every slot you come across? Yeah it is

I was hoping for something a little more elaborative. I am not saying I disagree with you but I would like to hear your logic

[Saudade]

Like... Do you want me to teach you how to scumhunt?

[duppin]

Like... Do you want me to teach you how to scumhunt?

No I do not want you to teach me anything. I'd just like you to explain your thinking

[Saudade]

The purpose of mafia is to avoid getting lynched by making townies cast doubt at other townies. Therefore a universally townread slot is bad for scum, thus the strategy of shading said slots has been born!

[Saudade]

Like... Do you want me to teach you how to scumhunt?

No I do not want you to teach me anything. I'd just like you to explain your thinking

How much more fundamental do you want me to get to

[Saudade]

Its very rare for a town slot to suspect ALL other slots because, some of us are town and should be able to towntell more or less

[duppin]

Sure but this was not about universally townread slots but about a player finding a lot of players suspicious.

As I said I do not disagree that finding every slot suspicious is questionable but on the other hand and this might not be the best read actually, but something I've noticed in a lot of less experienced players is overthinking things making them I don't know scared I suppose for the lack of a better word to commit to a townread on someone because they keep thinking of ways the slot could be scum. It doesn't only happen to less experienced players, some players are also to proud etc. Overall I agree with the sentiment that being non committal is scummy, but my impression of that slot that this is his first game in a long time and his reads comes more from being paranoid which I associate with town rather than to throw shade at players. I could be wrong because I am a bit torn on him

[duppin]

I will also gladly admit that my read is probably influenced by the fact that you called him out and I find you slightly suspicious because to me you came across as just wanting to be heard rather than actually trying to solve. The different meta reads being thrown at you does mean I might not be totally fair when evaluating your slot though and you did admit you don't really have much to go on early on which I obviously understand but yea

[Saudade]

We all just want to be heard in this world duppin, its not a scumtell its just being human

[duppin]

well to be fair there are a lot of scummy humans

[UNOwen]

Holy spam batman! This will be an interesting one...

How DARE you

Have you been scum before?

[shellyc]

hi UNO! I just read one of your games yesterday, pretty solid scumplay.

can you give me your thoughts so my mind has something to work with

[shellyc]

Have you been scum before?

redados' never been scum probably, so if anything the self aware play is town indicative

[JacksonVirgo]

Good to know NorwegianGuy.

Call me Norwee plz.

Oh do you prefer that? Or do you not mind if I call you NEE

That’s fine too. But Norwegianguy reminds me of that awkward portion of my childhood where my acc was named that and someone stole it and impersonated me.

Oh alright, didn't want to overstep or anything

[JacksonVirgo]

quoting myself, sometimes town are just... town

You better stop quoting that right now sir, i’m still pretty angry about you-know-what.

Oofers indeed

[JacksonVirgo]

Noraa and Shelly, you two both have that fucking evening sun avi and it’s the most confusing thing EVER.

I just hosted a newbie game with them both as scum and it was hilarious