Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 3.05

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2020-10-03 13:30:00).

execution

osuka [2]:

PlusJOYED, shellyc

bob3141 [1]:

Tayl0r Swift

shellyc [1]:

osuka

PlusJOYED [1]:

Andresvmb

Not Voting [4]:

NDMath, bob3141, Ydrasse, Menalque

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[osuka]

to try and postpone kersets elim
also defending kerset is insane regardless of alignment

Ill admit to being insane but isn’t hard defending a scumbuddy like that a death sentence?

[Andresvmb]

@Bob, what are the odds that we have a Vengeful Townie this game?

[Andresvmb]

Also, this defense that hard defending a buddy is not something you would do as Scum is, uhm, bad. How about pushing for actual Scum as Town?

[Andresvmb]

I have to be honest, the odds that we have a Vengeful Townie this game are like 1%. It doesn’t fit with an Informed Loyal Cop, a Scum Rolestopper, an Ascetic, and a Miller Town Checker. I think it’s way overpowered (since it’s essentially a Day Vig that negates the Scum Rolestopper, which would be insane in a game with a Cop).

[Andresvmb]

I’m not buying the claim at all, and all of the softing is completely counter-intuitive. So you want to be NK’ed so that you don’t have to shoot and narrow the POE further? This makes no sense.

[Andresvmb]

And you’re threatening to shoot Ydrasse? Why? Where is the Town consensus that this is the correct shot? And why are you making this threat when you’re not L-1?

[Andresvmb]

I think the correct play is to execute plus, and have the shot be expended. I would rather have control as to the potential outcome of this game as Town rather than leave it in the hands of plus tomorrow (if he is Town, and shoots incorrectly, that knocks 3 players with the NK and we lose with a mis-elimination today and an NK).

[bob3141]

@Bob, what are the odds that we have a Vengeful Townie this game?

Well its not exactly a claim scum makes as a scum plus would have to be desperate to make it.

[bob3141]

Well its not exactly a claim scum makes. As a scum plus would have to be desperate to make it.

missed the full stop

[bob3141]

I have to be honest, the odds that we have a Vengeful Townie this game are like 1%. It doesn’t fit with an Informed Loyal Cop, a Scum Rolestopper, an Ascetic, and a Miller Town Checker. I think it’s way overpowered (since it’s essentially a Day Vig that negates the Scum Rolestopper, which would be insane in a game with a Cop).

Thats bad set up spec.

miller town checker at most could be consider half medium role. Miller in this case isnt realy an weakness as it confirms the presence of a cop.

So 1/2 role

cops are 1.5 ish. the loyal slighly weakens it as it cant find guilties only clears. Unless a town checker can confirm that teh same player wasnt rolestopped

Ascetic if town is a town negative role. In this case would a be second miller. As a scum role it would be positive power for them but not vs the cop. So not as strong as it would be if the cop didnt have the loyal modifier.


vengful is an awful claim to make as scum. so unless we have lots of counter town power then plus is town

[bob3141]

I would expect us to have atleast one more town power role with plus

[Andresvmb]

So you think that in a game with a Cop that can clear people, Town gets a Role that can nuke one of the non-cleared slots? I agree it’s kind of a bad claim for Scum don’t get me wrong. I just don’t get it.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Osuka

[bob3141]

And the scum rolestopper doesnt realy have much to do with vengful. And in this balance teh scum rolestopper is probably intended to cause ambiguity over teh cop results. With the intent of it being used to stop clears being formed

Veng is like a one shot vig but only worse. As it requires a mislynch to use. So in one go it removes 2 mislynches rather than one. For the same odds of killing scum. With that being based on the persons reads

[bob3141]

So you think that in a game with a Cop that can clear people, Town gets a Role that can nuke one of the non-cleared slots? I agree it’s kind of a bad claim for Scum don’t get me wrong. I just don’t get it.

seen it once before in the 2020 large theme. They lynched the player and they hit scum with their shot.

[Andresvmb]

UNVOTE:

I think I need to think about this game a lot. There’s something that isn’t quite right here.

[PlusJOYED]

I still think the play is to elim osuka, he"s obviously scum at this point

[osuka]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

[Tayl0r Swift]

what happened to this energy.

you mean me?

pivot on Taylor is /probably/ TSTBS? that's the big thing im vibing now but I want to wait till they claim to really sort joyed

I want to sort you first I find it easier

really cuz the above post suggests you thought it implicated plus as scum, not as town for TSTBS

[bob3141]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

[bob3141]

VOTE: Osuka

[osuka]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

To avoid being lynched? Why else?

[Tayl0r Swift]

lets try something else
UNVOTE: osuka
VOTE: PlusJOYED

I will look over this when i am higher efforting but im willing to buy town!ydrasse

very odd to get in a shitfight with ydrasse but then move elsewhere.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ok I read ydrassse-me interaction once again.

it was

intended

to try and sort them and they passed. with flying colours.

I think Ydrasse is town.

when I say they're scum they immediately ask me to prove it which means they have nothing to hide esp. considering their fairly weak scumrange?
when I did that quote wall they manage to find my error - I disregarded d2 interactions with ydrasse-kerset which kinda heavily towntells
posts around 3939 are super genuine and trying to find my mindset while making their point across
"i really don't know how to get the point across" taking into my account my stubborn actions around it this is very town

Andres / Menal / Ydrasse / Taylor are townies. Bob / Math / plusjoy / osuka are the lynchpool. there's a very high chance of hitting scum with osuka lim, and I want plus to claim tomorrow. This game's nearly solved.

i mean i basically agree with you, but the fact that you had to go through all that to get there makes me distrust you.