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[EchoVision]

bc hippity hoppity i want page toppity part 2

[Datisi]

someone please hammer

[Nero Cain]

If you guys have been paying attention to our "spat". I think Gamma like to bus/distance from his buddies so in my mind there's a chance that someone he voted today is a buddy. Maybe even Tris AND skitter.

[EchoVision]

someone please hammer

fine i will
VOTE: skitter

[skitter30]

I would love it if Skitter is town b/c thats one less slot I have to sort but the things she's saying and doing worry me. Like, being useless with her vote until I called her on it seems scummy. I don't like that I'm her sole scum read or that she fence sat so hard on Alch. Her being so pro-gamma is worrisome. FMPOV his scumhunting is lacking in scope and depth and her coming in and just trying to handwave my content away is bad.

- wasnt being careless with my vote
- i'm not fence-sitting on alch
- i literally dont see the things u see in gamma; a lot of what ur calling out i dont think is scum-indicative for him

[Nero Cain]

i'm not fence-sitting on alch

lies

[Nero Cain]

I'm gonna be honest i keep forgetting that gamma was the other vote on ico too

and alch's iirc can be very strong town when he like ~ramps up~ and his current badness could be a result of irl things

[Nero Cain]

and here

the issues i'm having with him could be related to his irl stuff so i'm willing to give him a bit more space (i.e. till like tomorrow)

this doesn't really make sense to me b/c your supposed reason for scum reading him is his content. Him being busy with a new job doesn't change said content. IF you were pushing him for being inactive then sure but you aren't so...

Also this is how Alch always comes off to me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vote Count 1.11

Thor, 2019 National Dog Show Champion

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate
Day ends in (expired on 2020-09-24 18:01:32)

Votecount:
EchoVision(6): Datisi, Egix96, Alchemist21, Skitter30, tris, Iconeum
Skitter30(3): Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain, EchoVision
Gamma Emerald(2): Testarossa, SirCakez
tris(1): UnabombaH

[Nero Cain]

I'll be around to hammer but I was waiting around to see if anyone wanted to make any last minute posts.

[Datisi]

i think the only other person i'd like to vote rn is maybe gamma and that wagon is completely fucking dead

anyone else would be "eh i don't scumread this slot but we need a flip"

i don't have too much faith in echo flipping scum because the world isn't nice to me but they've already claimed and less than 5 hours till deadline etc etc so here's to me being wrong

[Alchemist21]

i like my vote on echo
at some point i was thinking about switching to gamma but after skitter rep-in i'm kinda eh on that now

still would switch there if needed

also my inner pessimism is starting to say that gamma/echo are probably t/t and it doesn't really matter
no i don't have anything rational to back that up with

Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?

[Alchemist21]

so the thing is that i fundementally dont believe survivalism to be a town-indicative trait, but it is fairly correlated with being scum imo

Disagree on this. Townies should want to survive and not get voted out because they’re confTown to themselves.

[Nero Cain]

no rush but im pretty interested in your thoughts.

[Datisi]

Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?

it is half-answered, and it is very weird to explain

like historically, whenever i was t/t with skitter, our reads were very different, and i wanted to murder her. the only time i was town with her being scum, i *didn't* want to murder her. now, with her replace in here, our reads were/are very different, and i slightly feel the urge to murder her. which is making me think she might be town.

you following? ok.

whenever we were t/t and had differing reads, hers always turned out to be much more correct than mine. that is giving me pause on gamma. though i would probably still execute gamma anyway. though it realistically doesn't really matter because the wagon is pretty dead.

[Alchemist21]

i disagree with the assessment here, because survivalistic town would also not be making that vote. I'd argue that it's more scum!indicative then town, and that it gives + scum equity to the cw as scum are more likely to not be counter-voting on partners.

A) so the thing is that i fundementally dont believe survivalism to be a town-indicative trait, but it is fairly correlated with being scum imo

B) so yu're saying you see gamma/echo as svs? Or am i misunderstanding the second bit?

I believe that survivalism is a NAI trait. At least, I know I do that from both allignments. And from a basic thoughts level: town!gamma knows he's town, so his flip is Always 'the wrong one'. As for Echo, he can't know.

Yes, I think gamma not wanting to cross-vote is scum/scum indicative.

I still don’t think Gamma’s scum but what you’re saying makes sense.

[Nero Cain]

datisim you are town reading Skitter b/c she has diffrent reads than you right? Or is there more to it?

[EchoVision]

i think the only other person i'd like to vote rn is maybe gamma and that wagon is completely fucking dead

anyone else would be "eh i don't scumread this slot but we need a flip"

i don't have too much faith in echo flipping scum because the world isn't nice to me but they've already claimed and less than 5 hours till deadline etc etc so here's to me being wrong

if you don't think i'll flip scum why dont you come join and vote skitter with us

[Datisi]

datisim you are town reading Skitter b/c she has diffrent reads than you right? Or is there more to it?

i'll tell you a secret
i ahve no fucking clue how to read skitter. i jsut don't. read skitter machine broke. i'm going with whatever i can grasp for now. there's not more to it. i don't want to vote her out on day one when it's gonna be a flash execution.

if you don't think i'll flip scum why dont you come join and vote skitter with us

i don't necessarily think you're flipping scum but imo skitter flips scum less than you so

[Nero Cain]

What our your thoughts on her content/play?

[Alchemist21]

Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?

it is half-answered, and it is very weird to explain

like historically, whenever i was t/t with skitter, our reads were very different, and i wanted to murder her. the only time i was town with her being scum, i *didn't* want to murder her. now, with her replace in here, our reads were/are very different, and i slightly feel the urge to murder her. which is making me think she might be town.

you following? ok.

whenever we were t/t and had differing reads, hers always turned out to be much more correct than mine. that is giving me pause on gamma. though i would probably still execute gamma anyway. though it realistically doesn't really matter because the wagon is pretty dead.

Ok I understand what you’re saying.

[Datisi]

What our your thoughts on her content/play?

most of her reads are "i don't understand this"
her spat with you is "presidential candidates"
i'm clinging on my mizzy tone townread until day two

[Alchemist21]

I think Datisi’a Town. The way they’re handling Skitter’s slot is just something I would sometimes expect from Town but never expect from scum.

[tris]

alchemist is still being boring

[Egix96]

i don't want to vote [skitter] out on day one when it's gonna be a flash execution.

I'm feeling the same way.