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someone please hammerI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Nero Cain
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If you guys have been paying attention to our "spat". I think Gamma like to bus/distance from his buddies so in my mind there's a chance that someone he voted today is a buddy. Maybe even Tris AND skitter.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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- wasnt being careless with my voteIn post 695, Nero Cain wrote:I would love it if Skitter is town b/c thats one less slot I have to sort but the things she's saying and doing worry me. Like, being useless with her vote until I called her on it seems scummy. I don't like that I'm her sole scum read or that she fence sat so hard on Alch. Her being so pro-gamma is worrisome. FMPOV his scumhunting is lacking in scope and depth and her coming in and just trying to handwave my content away is bad.
- i'm not fence-sitting on alch
- i literally dont see the things u see in gamma; a lot of what ur calling out i dont think is scum-indicative for himShowHiatus once more.
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liesIn post 704, skitter30 wrote:i'm not fence-sitting on alchOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 648, skitter30 wrote:I'm gonna be honest i keep forgetting that gamma was the other vote on ico tooIn post 591, skitter30 wrote:and alch's iirc can be very strong town when he like ~ramps up~ and his current badness could be a result of irl thingsOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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this doesn't really make sense to me b/c your supposed reason for scum reading him is his content. Him being busy with a new job doesn't change said content. IF you were pushing him for being inactive then sure but you aren't so...In post 607, skitter30 wrote:the issues i'm having with him could be related to his irl stuff so i'm willing to give him a bit more space (i.e. till like tomorrow)
Also this is how Alch always comes off to me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'll be around to hammer but I was waiting around to see if anyone wanted to make any last minute posts.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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i think the only other person i'd like to vote rn is maybe gamma and that wagon is completely fucking dead
anyone else would be "eh i don't scumread this slot but we need a flip"
i don't have too much faith in echo flipping scum because the world isn't nice to me but they've already claimed and less than 5 hours till deadline etc etc so here's to me being wrongI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Alchemist21
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Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?In post 638, Datisi wrote:i like my vote on echo
at some point i was thinking about switching to gamma but after skitter rep-in i'm kinda eh on that now
still would switch there if needed
also my inner pessimism is starting to say that gamma/echo are probably t/t and it doesn't really matter
no i don't have anything rational to back that up with- Alchemist21
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Disagree on this. Townies should want to survive and not get voted out because they’re confTown to themselves.In post 644, skitter30 wrote:so the thing is that i fundementally dont believe survivalism to be a town-indicative trait, but it is fairly correlated with being scum imo- Nero Cain
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no rush but im pretty interested in your thoughts.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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it is half-answered, and it is very weird to explainIn post 711, Alchemist21 wrote:Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?
like historically, whenever i was t/t with skitter, our reads were very different, and i wanted to murder her. the only time i was town with her being scum, i *didn't* want to murder her. now, with her replace in here, our reads were/are very different, and i slightly feel the urge to murder her. which is making me think she might be town.
you following? ok.
whenever we were t/t and had differing reads, hers always turned out to be much more correct than mine. that is giving me pause on gamma. though i would probably still execute gamma anyway. though it realistically doesn't really matter because the wagon is pretty dead.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Alchemist21
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I still don’t think Gamma’s scum but what you’re saying makes sense.In post 650, Iconeum wrote:
I believe that survivalism is a NAI trait. At least, I know I do that from both allignments. And from a basic thoughts level: town!gamma knows he's town, so his flip is Always 'the wrong one'. As for Echo, he can't know.In post 644, skitter30 wrote:
A) so the thing is that i fundementally dont believe survivalism to be a town-indicative trait, but it is fairly correlated with being scum imoIn post 621, Iconeum wrote:i disagree with the assessment here, because survivalistic town would also not be making that vote. I'd argue that it's more scum!indicative then town, and that it gives + scum equity to the cw as scum are more likely to not be counter-voting on partners.
B) so yu're saying you see gamma/echo as svs? Or am i misunderstanding the second bit?
Yes, I think gamma not wanting to cross-vote is scum/scum indicative.- Nero Cain
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datisim you are town reading Skitter b/c she has diffrent reads than you right? Or is there more to it?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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if you don't think i'll flip scum why dont you come join and vote skitter with usIn post 710, Datisi wrote:i think the only other person i'd like to vote rn is maybe gamma and that wagon is completely fucking dead
anyone else would be "eh i don't scumread this slot but we need a flip"
i don't have too much faith in echo flipping scum because the world isn't nice to me but they've already claimed and less than 5 hours till deadline etc etc so here's to me being wrongUnaBombaH: I think Im happy you turned up to be the scum, and that you won, because I will use this game as a guideline for whenever I finally land my first scumrole.- Datisi
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i'll tell you a secretIn post 716, Nero Cain wrote:datisim you are town reading Skitter b/c she has diffrent reads than you right? Or is there more to it?
i ahve no fucking clue how to read skitter. i jsut don't. read skitter machine broke. i'm going with whatever i can grasp for now. there's not more to it. i don't want to vote her out on day one when it's gonna be a flash execution.
i don't necessarily think you're flipping scum but imo skitter flips scum less than you soIn post 717, EchoVision wrote:if you don't think i'll flip scum why dont you come join and vote skitter with usI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Nero Cain
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What our your thoughts on her content/play?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Ok I understand what you’re saying.In post 714, Datisi wrote:
it is half-answered, and it is very weird to explainIn post 711, Alchemist21 wrote:Maybe this is answered already (I’m behind and reading through) but why does Skitter’s replace in affect your thoughts on Gamma?
like historically, whenever i was t/t with skitter, our reads were very different, and i wanted to murder her. the only time i was town with her being scum, i *didn't* want to murder her. now, with her replace in here, our reads were/are very different, and i slightly feel the urge to murder her. which is making me think she might be town.
you following? ok.
whenever we were t/t and had differing reads, hers always turned out to be much more correct than mine. that is giving me pause on gamma. though i would probably still execute gamma anyway. though it realistically doesn't really matter because the wagon is pretty dead.- Datisi
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most of her reads are "i don't understand this"In post 719, Nero Cain wrote:What our your thoughts on her content/play?
her spat with you is "presidential candidates"
i'm clinging on my mizzy tone townread until day twoI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Alchemist21
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I'm feeling the same way.In post 718, Datisi wrote:i don't want to vote [skitter] out on day one when it's gonna be a flash execution. - Egix96
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