Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[PlusJOYED]

i did in that post?

you kinda hedged against it though:

It might've been buying time to give a read on their scum bulge partner, but that's pretty overt and idk if aliase would do that when they could easily just not mention bulge too.

this is not convincing at all, it doesn't even look like you believe it. and given that e put two other people as ???, e could have just stuck bulge there as well.

he specifically said he wasn't reading bulges posts and that stuck out to me. i didn't know he put 2 people as ??? who was the other?

[Something_Smart]

The Bulge - Null
Secret Tunnels - I liked their earlier posts
Morph the Cat - Town
Remilia Scarlet - I'm trusting morph who has more experience with the slot
zmuffin man -
Bell - Something seems off but I can't put my finger on it but its probably just me overthinking things

Prism/420 Blaze it - ???

PlusJOYED - Town but something seems off with those reads but I'm probably just overthinking it
MariaR - Most likely town but too early to be sure
April Ludgate - Proceed with caution

Something_Smart - ???

midwaybear - Probably town

Also e just left the Muffin spot completely blank.

[April Ludgate]

morph was in your top townblock in your last readlist but now at the bottom. When did this happen?

I feel like if you check my ISO, it’s definitely been leading there.

I know for a fact Morph saw this coming.

Look at the extreme lack of mentioning anything to do with my slot in the last couple days or so. Only when I directly go to him.

That’s what made me feel like I was about to get drowned out, which I did, anytime I would post, I wouldn’t get a big response, which was drastically different from before. I was testing for that.

Maybe I’m paranoid because everyone was town reading them so hard, this is half the reason I don’t want to fade them today. I’d rather wait and see if I’m wrong rather than misfading them.

[morph the cat]

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

Of the lists, I town read SS, Morph, Bell, PlusJoyed.

I’m turning around on Alisae. I kinda like Midwaybear.

Secret Tunnel/Bulge definitely could have scum in them.

Something’s really bugging me about zMuffinman. What are people’s reads there?

PlusJoyed
Remelia
Bell

Zmuffin

Midwaybear
Alisae
The Bulge
Something Smart

Maria

420
Secret Tunnel
Morph

Probably where I’m at, but I understand where I could just be getting paranoid of Morph.

Literally laughed out loud.

If you feel like wordsing your Something Smart and Secret Tunnel reads a little more, I'd subscribe to your newsletter. For the free month anyway.

[Something_Smart]

he specifically said he wasn't reading bulges posts and that stuck out to me.

Yes exactly, it sticks out. How does that square with it being an inconspicuous attempt to avoid giving a read on a scumbuddy?

[Alisae]

are you a gambler notty

Hell no

Pedit
See that list is weird

I’m at

Bell
Bulge
Bear
Morph
Remi

Muffin
S_S
Joyed

April
Ali
Maria
420

like okay ya maybe this could be scum ig

[PlusJOYED]

and yeah, i was very light in that post SS and that's because i think aliase is town still. I'm saying that if bulge flipped red it would be sus, but that only assumes a scum!bulge, and i've been starting to see bulge as more towny lately
pedit: because scumbuddies like to fencesit on each other

[Alisae]

The Bulge - Null
Secret Tunnels - I liked their earlier posts
Morph the Cat - Town
Remilia Scarlet - I'm trusting morph who has more experience with the slot
zmuffin man -
Bell - Something seems off but I can't put my finger on it but its probably just me overthinking things

Prism/420 Blaze it - ???

PlusJOYED - Town but something seems off with those reads but I'm probably just overthinking it
MariaR - Most likely town but too early to be sure
April Ludgate - Proceed with caution

Something_Smart - ???

midwaybear - Probably town

Also e just left the Muffin spot completely blank.

I figured I would get a better read on the slot if we talked more so I didn't bother filling it in

[April Ludgate]

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

Of the lists, I town read SS, Morph, Bell, PlusJoyed.

I’m turning around on Alisae. I kinda like Midwaybear.

Secret Tunnel/Bulge definitely could have scum in them.

Something’s really bugging me about zMuffinman. What are people’s reads there?

PlusJoyed
Remelia
Bell

Zmuffin

Midwaybear
Alisae
The Bulge
Something Smart

Maria

420
Secret Tunnel
Morph

Probably where I’m at, but I understand where I could just be getting paranoid of Morph.

Literally laughed out loud.

If you feel like wordsing your Something Smart and Secret Tunnel reads a little more, I'd subscribe to your newsletter. For the free month anyway.

Awesome. Immediate shade discredit. This is what I was hoping for.

Something Smart probably town, ST probably scum.

ST’s lower reads are just incredibly surface level weak, which could actually lean him more town, however those are where ST needs to chop momentum because by no means are they the scumLeader.

If Morph is scum, they are, by far, which means ST has to do the chopping work.

Something Smart, you need to just deal with it, we’re both town.

[PlusJOYED]

fencesitting in this case makes more sense because aliase was late to the thread imo

[April Ludgate]

Here’s the difference between why Zmuffin is town and Morph is scum.

When Zmuffin got targeted as scum, they flipped out, and kept pushing the same thing, without agenda, really.

Morph, as the highest town read, can’t comprehend why anyone could scum read them, and “literally laughed out loud”. That is a discredit play.

Someone who is that universally town read Day 1 should never question being an idea tinfoil paranoia scum read, even if it isn’t true.

If anything, me scum reading Morph if they are town would help them survive Night kills.

This is why Morph is scum, short reason, anyways.

[PlusJOYED]

i think your pretty off base April. Like it's backwards

[April Ludgate]

@Mariar/Alisae/SS

I hope the three of you can spot the difference in this game. ScumMe runs the shadows, townMe gets ridiculed and laughed at in public. Yes, I try to get that recreated in my scum games, but it’s different.

MariaR, someone who just modded a game with scum me, played with scumMe earlier in the year, and over the years has been one of the only people to consistently not get fooled by my scum shit.

Alisae, knows how I think in person, caught me earlier this year.

SS, knows me better than almost anyone else on site.

So knowing this, I need you 3 to town read me. So let’s do what we gotta do to get you to town read me

[April Ludgate]

i think your pretty off base April. Like it's backwards

From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.

[April Ludgate]

Basically, I think you guys are backwards.

It’s probably somewhere in the middle, to be honest. It’s Day 1. But it’s ignorant to think you aren’t the ones backwards.

[Something_Smart]

I hope the three of you can spot the difference in this game. ScumMe runs the shadows, townMe gets ridiculed and laughed at in public.

You have been ridiculed and laughed at in public as scum before, but you are feeling like town so far.

[morph the cat]

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

zMuffinman, Alisae, Maria, Prism, Remelia has multiple scum in it probably.

The Bulge, Midwaybear, SS, Morph, Bell, Secret Tunnel

Is who is left over, and I’m forgetting one person...hmm

PlusJoyed, lol

Of the lists, I town read SS, Morph, Bell, PlusJoyed.

I’m turning around on Alisae. I kinda like Midwaybear.

Secret Tunnel/Bulge definitely could have scum in them.

Something’s really bugging me about zMuffinman. What are people’s reads there?

PlusJoyed
Remelia
Bell

Zmuffin

Midwaybear
Alisae
The Bulge
Something Smart

Maria

420
Secret Tunnel
Morph

Probably where I’m at, but I understand where I could just be getting paranoid of Morph.

Literally laughed out loud.

If you feel like wordsing your Something Smart and Secret Tunnel reads a little more, I'd subscribe to your newsletter. For the free month anyway.

Awesome. Immediate shade discredit. This is what I was hoping for.

Something Smart probably town, ST probably scum.

ST’s lower reads are just incredibly surface level weak, which could actually lean him more town, however those are where ST needs to chop momentum because by no means are they the scumLeader.

If Morph is scum, they are, by far, which means ST has to do the chopping work.

Something Smart, you need to just deal with it, we’re both town.

Your scumread does amuse me. The reason we haven't been talking about you in the game thread -- though I have thrown a couple questions your way -- is because I know my read is in flux, and I think Cabd's is also. You went quickly, in my case from "It's Boonskiies, wwwhhhyyy tlaloc wwwwhhhhyyyyy?", to "Ok, there's some content and interesting takes here". That's mostly a sign of how long I've been on hiatus, probably. Both of us.

I want to discuss Cabd's take on you because you started low enough in my null pile that I'd have been ok with your elim today and for me, you're well out of that range now.

[April Ludgate]

What does Tlacloc stand for?

[April Ludgate]

I hope the three of you can spot the difference in this game. ScumMe runs the shadows, townMe gets ridiculed and laughed at in public.

You have been ridiculed and laughed at in public as scum before, but you are feeling like town so far.

Right, but they’re different. Town me gets discredited. ScumMe takes advantage of it purposefully.

[morph the cat]

Tlaloc is my patron deity of Mafia.

[April Ludgate]

Also note the “okay eliminating” line by Morph. They need to get rid of their issue without getting much heat on them, so they’ve already set up a situation with my flip where they can discredit me in death.

I don’t expect you to be able to eliminate me today, however.

[April Ludgate]

Tlaloc is my patron deity of Mafia.

Proud to be your deity, bow down to your emperor

[morph the cat]

Tlaloc is my patron deity of Mafia.

Proud to be your deity, bow down to your emperor

Read better.

[The Bulge]

Here’s the difference between why Zmuffin is town and Morph is scum.

When Zmuffin got targeted as scum, they flipped out, and kept pushing the same thing, without agenda, really.

Morph, as the highest town read, can’t comprehend why anyone could scum read them, and “literally laughed out loud”. That is a discredit play.

Someone who is that universally town read Day 1 should never question being an idea tinfoil paranoia scum read, even if it isn’t true.

If anything, me scum reading Morph if they are town would help them survive Night kills.

This is why Morph is scum, short reason, anyways.

is any of this proof of morph scum?

[morph the cat]

Also note the “okay eliminating” line by Morph. They need to get rid of their issue without getting much heat on them, so they’ve already set up a situation with my flip where they can discredit me in death.

I don’t expect you to be able to eliminate me today, however.

At this point, I don't expect us to want to.

Re your 1927 Cabd informs me that it pisses him off.