Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[April Ludgate]

4 is very possible, but not in the plans, if that makes sense.

[Secret Tunnel]

like okay ya maybe this could be scum ig

Why?

Why do you seem so disengaged? You felt like you did way more in Smuggler's port. It's also very weird you think this could be my scumplay because I definitely look way different here than I did there where I was scum.

is any of this proof of morph scum?

Maybe I just play with myself too much but I have no issue questioning people whose reads on me dont meet the norm for the game.

Okay, I can get with this.

I don't understand your trajectory wrt me. You just said I have potential to be scum for going with the flow, letting morph take the lead for me. I tell you Im working with my townreads and following along with them where they want to go and you can get with that? Like I feel like that should have tipped your read further towards the red.

who was this to?

April? Who just accused my readslist of being to explicitly target LHF? Who has since replied to that post? Are you reading?

I’m here with ya. Through and through. You, me, Plus, Remelia. We have a bond now that nobody can ever take away. We’re the friendly foursome.

This feels very buddy-esque.

April? I don't really agree. I think this is a bout of paranoia.

Idk I feel like my gameview is such a stark difference from a few others and its starting to concern me a lot. I get such agenda vibes from April but I think its just playstyle so im trying to separate it from my read on them given everyone who seems familiar with them has townreads on them. But it seems like everyones townreading everyone else they're familiar with this game.

[zMuffinMan]

#1918 doesn't look all that different to alisae's own reads, if you ignore the fact that alisae has a ton of nulls and zero scum reads

[PlusJOYED]

4 is very possible, but not in the plans, if that makes sense.

no offense april but I don't believe you

[zMuffinMan]

i suppose i should ask if alisae's mariar read has changed given the sole reason alisae gave for the town read is invalid

[midwaybear]

That whole conversation left me down on April a bit, but maybe even morph? It seems like she is broadcasting the bravado, and trying to manipulate the game narrative to position paranoia on morph. I'm not sure how much I agree with the "go with the flow" narrative that April is trying to establish, and I'd like to know why she thinks that is. The only thing that sticks out to me is the lack of votes, but even that seems like playstyle rather than this game in particular. Even if this is true, it doesn't necessarily lead to morph scum right? Scum could very well be positioning to gain favor with a slot they perceive to be the center which makes sense with my read on Secret Tunnels.
About April's read itself, I can't tell if it comes from scum or town, but I'm not sure how valid it is.

[April Ludgate]

4 is very possible, but not in the plans, if that makes sense.

no offense april but I don't believe you

Doesn’t matter if you believe me yet, i already said earlier I will be confirmable as town this game.

[midwaybear]

Doesn’t matter if you believe me yet, i already said earlier I will be confirmable as town this game.

What does that have to do with believing you?

[Secret Tunnel]

Bear I’m still waiting for real engagement from you. Don’t get yourself out of one tunnel on town into another, please.

[April Ludgate]

That whole conversation left me down on April a bit, but maybe even morph? It seems like she is broadcasting the bravado, and trying to manipulate the game narrative to position paranoia on morph. I'm not sure how much I agree with the "go with the flow" narrative that April is trying to establish, and I'd like to know why she thinks that is. The only thing that sticks out to me is the lack of votes, but even that seems like playstyle rather than this game in particular. Even if this is true, it doesn't necessarily lead to morph scum right? Scum could very well be positioning to gain favor with a slot they perceive to be the center which makes sense with my read on Secret Tunnels.
About April's read itself, I can't tell if it comes from scum or town, but I'm not sure how valid it is.

This is true in the most base of forms, yes, but when you get down more into it, it’s much more likely. Look at Morph’s way of mentioning me all game, specifically after it was obvious I no longer had morph as a town block town read.

And yeah, it is buddy esque, but it is not a scum pocket. I buddy as town because i own read the three of them.

[April Ludgate]

Doesn’t matter if you believe me yet, i already said earlier I will be confirmable as town this game.

What does that have to do with believing you?

Because i i say I’m straight shooting, you best believe it to be true.

[Alisae]

Why do you seem so disengaged? You felt like you did way more in Smuggler's port. It's also very weird you think this could be my scumplay because I definitely look way different here than I did there where I was scum.

Notty I don't remember Smuggler's Port aside from the fact I really didn't want to play. You also pocketted me in that game.

[Alisae]

April? Who just accused my readslist of being to explicitly target LHF? Who has since replied to that post? Are you reading?

I'm having trouble following the conversation

[Alisae]

i suppose i should ask if alisae's mariar read has changed given the sole reason alisae gave for the town read is invalid

no

[zMuffinMan]

i should probably mention that i have too many town reads and if one or (especially) both of alisae/mariar happen to be town then i'm going very, very wrong somewhere. i know i'm probably giving someone too easy a town read, just not currently sure who

i am starting the process of a full reset to see if i still reach the same conclusions

[April Ludgate]

That whole conversation left me down on April a bit, but maybe even morph? It seems like she is broadcasting the bravado, and trying to manipulate the game narrative to position paranoia on morph. I'm not sure how much I agree with the "go with the flow" narrative that April is trying to establish, and I'd like to know why she thinks that is. The only thing that sticks out to me is the lack of votes, but even that seems like playstyle rather than this game in particular. Even if this is true, it doesn't necessarily lead to morph scum right? Scum could very well be positioning to gain favor with a slot they perceive to be the center which makes sense with my read on Secret Tunnels.
About April's read itself, I can't tell if it comes from scum or town, but I'm not sure how valid it is.

If you can get past the surface level, this is exactly why you should see that I’m town based on overall gamestate and timing.

[Secret Tunnel]

I didn’t remember it the same way you did but on re-evaluation I guess I did kinda pocket you.

I’m still not scum here but meh.

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See I both agree with this post but also feel like you’d recognize the lay of the land and know it’s a good place to be

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I just don’t like how focused your play is on agendas but I digress

[April Ludgate]

I focus on everything. Agenda just happens one of the most telling ways of catching scum, especially Day 1.

I’m personally ready to end the day, so I see no reason to hold onto any thoughts I had on Morph

[zMuffinMan]

what's your reason for the mariar town read now then, alisae?

[April Ludgate]

I don't understand your trajectory wrt me. You just said I have potential to be scum for going with the flow, letting morph take the lead for me. I tell you Im working with my townreads and following along with them where they want to go and you can get with that? Like I feel like that should have tipped your read further towards the red.

That is semi why it went green. You’d be aware of that as scum, so could easily bluff it.

I think you are the type to bluff, possibly double bluff, so unless you’re triple bluffing, you’re slightly townier than before.

[April Ludgate]

Personally, I know I could very well be wrong with my Morph read, however, I don’t think just because everyone else has a different read means I am wrong, in this scenario.

If someone can make an actual town case, by all means, I’d give it some real thought, but I started to look more into Morph’s and there isn’t anything that I would say actually makes them town.

I noticed a lot with their big chapter posts. It’s projecting and they were fluffy, which I feel is a staple for that era of strong scum play.

Brian Skies is someone I also caught as scum in this fashion years back, ironically, in a Cabd modded game, where it was multiball, I was the other scum team.

[April Ludgate]

At the present, I would put more money betting on myself than on someone else, however.

[zMuffinMan]

Maybe I just play with myself too much

i did not need this information, noddy

[Secret Tunnel]

I just don’t think it makes sense for scum them to come out of the gate shoving me and then muffin. Much easier to keep me at arms length. I don’t think ffery had to back off her push of me when she did either, it was likely she would have been able to get a remi vote and put me even further on my back foot.

I also think them warming up to me had a pretty noticeable trajectory in thread.

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Lmao, probably phrased that wrong

[Tammy]

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