Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[shellyc]

like ehhh i think what ydrasse does in the posts above is probe people to give their thoughts (me and joyed)
but ydrasse isn't concluding our alignments fwiw

[shellyc]

Probing people to give their thoughts is protown so i'll give you that, but to me it's not indicative of solving

[PlusJOYED]

Ok I think this will get me killed anyway since it will be interpreted as scum flailing but I think in the interest of making the gamestate clearer I will come clean so I can explain. The vengeful claim/soft thing was a long term gambit I did as a VT was to get hopefully nked or waste mafia actions on me to save a pr potentially and to garner reactions/interactions at a later time when needed to solve; I chose today.
I originally thought that the mafia had to have some sort of investigating role that they would have investigated me by now to learn that I was lying about vengeful/soft. If mafia knew I was lying, they'd push me like hell for townpoints. Mena explained how this is probably not the case.
Since mafia would believe I'm vengeful, they'd have to tread extremely careful around me so they don't get hit by venge shot. Ydrasse has not, so I think they are town. I already am confident in andres and mena town. I also think taylor is town since bussing bob here is weird. I don't think scum osuka would push me here either for that same reason as Ydrasse despite being in worse position.
Who has tread carefully around my slot? Bob (especially and I think tried to pocket a bit) , a little of taylor and shelly, and ndmath. I'm extremely certain that the 2 remaining scum are in those 4. I think it is bob and ndmath or shelly.

[shellyc]

this is weird as fuck and I don't buy it at all.

VOTE: PlusJOYED

Also, you contradicted yourself. Scum probably wasn't aware of your "vengeful" ability so your ydra TR doesn't make sense.
Also didnt you just say scum would push you for +townpoints? so your osuka read doesnt make sense either

Tell me how I tread carefully around you because since d1 ive had a scumlean there

[shellyc]

imagine VT!joyed
why would rolecop (if existing) investigate you when town!joyed is obvlynchbait

4227 doesn't make a single tidbit of sense at all and we should powereliminate joyed NOW

[PlusJOYED]

this is weird as fuck and I don't buy it at all.

VOTE: PlusJOYED

Also, you contradicted yourself. Scum probably wasn't aware of your "vengeful" ability so your ydra TR doesn't make sense.
Also didnt you just say scum would push you for +townpoints? so your osuka read doesnt make sense either

Tell me how I tread carefully around you because since d1 ive had a scumlean there

oh my this post is pretty wolfy and misrepping. I've noticed you tend to get wolfier when nearing a kill
it's probably bob/shelly

[Menalque]

even if I have plausible reasons for scum!ydra then it doesnt mean im auto town? since ive seen scum compellingly scumcase people more than once

pedit: you're saying that ydrasse is engaging / probing me to give my thoughts on them and therefore they are solving
which I point out isnt true

Probing people to give their thoughts is protown so i'll give you that, but to me it's not indicative of solving

literally what do you think solving is

[Menalque]

like ehhh i think what ydrasse does in the posts above is probe people to give their thoughts (me and joyed)
but ydrasse isn't concluding our alignments fwiw

no she very clearly wants to know what your thoughts are IN ORDER TO establish things about your alignemnts

the questions are not just empty, they have a point to them

[Menalque]

Ok I think this will get me killed anyway since it will be interpreted as scum flailing but I think in the interest of making the gamestate clearer I will come clean so I can explain. The vengeful claim/soft thing was a long term gambit I did as a VT was to get hopefully nked or waste mafia actions on me to save a pr potentially and to garner reactions/interactions at a later time when needed to solve; I chose today.
I originally thought that the mafia had to have some sort of investigating role that they would have investigated me by now to learn that I was lying about vengeful/soft. If mafia knew I was lying, they'd push me like hell for townpoints. Mena explained how this is probably not the case.
Since mafia would believe I'm vengeful, they'd have to tread extremely careful around me so they don't get hit by venge shot. Ydrasse has not, so I think they are town. I already am confident in andres and mena town. I also think taylor is town since bussing bob here is weird. I don't think scum osuka would push me here either for that same reason as Ydrasse despite being in worse position.
Who has tread carefully around my slot? Bob (especially and I think tried to pocket a bit) , a little of taylor and shelly, and ndmath. I'm extremely certain that the 2 remaining scum are in those 4. I think it is bob and ndmath or shelly.

*thonk*

[shellyc]

oh my this post is pretty wolfy and misrepping. I've noticed you tend to get wolfier when nearing a kill
it's probably bob/shelly

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

VOTE ME THEN. DIE MAFIA SCUM!

[shellyc]

joyed throwing out reads because ive prodded them to for 10 times and now are giving a solve that doesn't make a single tidbit of sense

[Menalque]

okay I'm thinking about the plus thing, would prefer no speed murderising

UNVOTE:

[shellyc]

I kinda want to do bob tbh

when kerset (hypothetical partner 1 who looks worse) is near a lim

do I deflect to bob (hypothetical partner 2 who looks better)? how is that +EV for me

[shellyc]

no we speed murder outed scum

[shellyc]

bob3141 - again, falls into the "apathy + agreeable" category. ISO does not display a solving mindset. Vote on teacher looks super bad. Scummy

like why tf do i need to scumread my other partner when kerset was already gone if the solve is shell/kerset/bob

[shellyc]

like tbh I think the hostility of bob towards teacher just incriminates them even more

teacher's reaction is quite geniune and i buy the informed townie claim so bob is just bullshitting

idk why bob just does not accept that teacher made a mistake because upon reread, the reaction seems to show real town emotion

bob's confusing shading of teacher gives me heavy scumpings

so you think I bussed both my partners d2

joyed not checking facts before shading lol

[shellyc]

will be happy to vote bob

so you think i hate both kerset and bob and want to play this game solo

plus no offence at all but you are really really stupid town who thinks i hate my partners or scum

[Menalque]

even if I have plausible reasons for scum!ydra then it doesnt mean im auto town? since ive seen scum compellingly scumcase people more than once

pedit: you're saying that ydrasse is engaging / probing me to give my thoughts on them and therefore they are solving
which I point out isnt true

Probing people to give their thoughts is protown so i'll give you that, but to me it's not indicative of solving

literally what do you think solving is

this as a genuine question that I'd like you to answer shelly

[shellyc]

I think solving is having intention and taking proactive ways to find out the alignment of people and therefore making reads on people

What Ydrasse did was find out what we thought about the alignments of several players. this doesn't constitute solving all by itself since asking someone to give their thoughts will not directly find out said player's alignment

the notable thing is that theres no follow up or conclusion on our alignments after the questioning; it basically accomplished nothing for the town as a whole if you don't end up with a read after discussion and interogation

[PlusJOYED]

like tbh I think the hostility of bob towards teacher just incriminates them even more

teacher's reaction is quite geniune and i buy the informed townie claim so bob is just bullshitting

idk why bob just does not accept that teacher made a mistake because upon reread, the reaction seems to show real town emotion

bob's confusing shading of teacher gives me heavy scumpings

so you think I bussed both my partners d2

joyed not checking facts before shading lol

yeah

[PlusJOYED]

will be happy to vote bob

so you think i hate both kerset and bob and want to play this game solo

plus no offence at all but you are really really stupid town who thinks i hate my partners or scum

you seem to be panicking, i still wanna vote bob first

[shellyc]

You do realise that kerset / bob are more experienced + competent players than me right?

pedit: admittedly town!me gets stressed when pushed on as well; read newbie 2025
I am overdefensive of myself

[PlusJOYED]

i could see you push bob and kerset day 2 for townpoints as scum
I also have noticed you've been on basically every wagon

[osuka]

okay I'm starting to have mildly bad feels about shelly now

that's p clearly not what I'm saying so are you reading my posts or not

This sums up most of my interactions with her today

[shellyc]

Okay so suddenly whole plist turns on me for the reason because i have very bad reading comprehension??