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[shellyc]

can anyone case me or offer an explanation as to why im scum other than the reason of "shelly misreps people"

[osuka]

oh my this post is pretty wolfy and misrepping. I've noticed you tend to get wolfier when nearing a kill
it's probably bob/shelly

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

VOTE ME THEN. DIE MAFIA SCUM!

Wasn’t directed at me but you know what, I forgot who I have my vote on and wanna make sure so here goes

VOTE: shelly

[shellyc]

i could see you push bob and kerset day 2 for townpoints as scum
I also have noticed you've been on basically every wagon

Note to self do not vote anyone ever.

town's most powerful weapon is our vote and i dont think it's especially scummy to use it

pedit: scum are trying to mislim me now and i will not make this work

[osuka]

oh my this post is pretty wolfy and misrepping. I've noticed you tend to get wolfier when nearing a kill
it's probably bob/shelly

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

VOTE ME THEN. DIE MAFIA SCUM!

You do realise that kerset / bob are more experienced + competent players than me right?

pedit: admittedly town!me gets stressed when pushed on as well; read newbie 2025
I am overdefensive of myself

Please stop with the self meta, it’s giving me brain aids

[osuka]

Okay so suddenly whole plist turns on me for the reason because i have very bad reading comprehension??

There’s a tangible and very significant difference between subpar reading comprehension skills and what you’ve been doing

[osuka]

can anyone case me or offer an explanation as to why im scum other than the reason of "shelly misreps people"

The way you’re misrepping people is reason enough

[shellyc]

I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously scum.

now off to bed I go

pedit: I'll elaborate a bit more on my logical trajectories in the game of everyone tomorrow if you need me to

[osuka]

When it was just me I thought you were just tunneling me but it’s clearly a pattern whenever someone gets close to hammer

[shellyc]

can you actually elaborate on wtf you think im misrepping

[Datisi]

Vote count 3.09

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2020-10-03 13:30:00).

execution

bob3141 [3]:

Tayl0r Swift, Andresvmb, PlusJOYED

osuka [2]:

bob3141, NDMath

PlusJOYED [2]:

Ydrasse, shellyc

shellyc [1]:

osuka

Not Voting [1]:

Menalque

mod notes

~ two non-daddy VCs in a row? bad mod

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[osuka]

can you actually elaborate on wtf you think im misrepping

Last couple pages are full of it

[PlusJOYED]

I would also like to reiterate my claim that Osuka is sort of obviously scum.

now off to bed I go

pedit: I'll elaborate a bit more on my logical trajectories in the game of everyone tomorrow if you need me to

osuka has played like this as town before

[PlusJOYED]

I'll elim bob, shelly, or possibly math today

[Andresvmb]

@Bob so my setup spec was bad huh?

[osuka]

I'll elim bob, shelly, or possibly math today

I’m cool with any of these

[bob3141]

if I were scum I'd try to pocket the vengeful claim very carefully
I think that's what bob is doing here

To be honest if i was scum tryign to pocket someone. You would be pocketed.

Menal knows. He was town in game i hard pocketed farkum.

Last game i hard pocketed SG and pocketed vota before the slots were replaced. Even survived being guilitied.


If you want to pocket soemone you pick your target well and match their reads. You need them to think you have similar mind set. as that allows you to then bend their reads around what you want. And they think and everyone sees them as the driver.

See how i saved porkens in my latest finished scum game. I manipulated a player into saying things that got him flash lynched at deadline. As i could use the voting block i had formed around myself on my buddies wagon. To suddenly shift the weight. Yet it was my vote that followed my pocket. When i followed it reassured those voting him that it was town motivated. They were instigators and i was the cement.

All while doign towny things all of day one

[Tayl0r Swift]

joyed instead of seeing scum!anybody can you give me a lynch order so we have have some Fun Discussion and I can release my theory on the alignments of plus and ydrasse

here's mine: (least to most)
Shelly
Andres
Menalque
Ydrasse
Math
Bob
Joyed
Osuka

this list makes me sad

[Tayl0r Swift]

joyed instead of seeing scum!anybody can you give me a lynch order so we have have some Fun Discussion and I can release my theory on the alignments of plus and ydrasse

here's mine: (least to most)
Shelly
Andres
Menalque
Ydrasse
Math
Bob
Joyed
Osuka

mine is probably
andres
mena
joyed
Shelly
ydrasse
osuka
math
bob

the fact that you also forgot me suggests you just re-ordered the existing list rather than looking at the thread.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im not dead am i? did i forget that i died?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ok I think this will get me killed anyway since it will be interpreted as scum flailing but I think in the interest of making the gamestate clearer I will come clean so I can explain. The vengeful claim/soft thing was a long term gambit I did as a VT was to get hopefully nked or waste mafia actions on me to save a pr potentially and to garner reactions/interactions at a later time when needed to solve; I chose today.
I originally thought that the mafia had to have some sort of investigating role that they would have investigated me by now to learn that I was lying about vengeful/soft. If mafia knew I was lying, they'd push me like hell for townpoints. Mena explained how this is probably not the case.
Since mafia would believe I'm vengeful, they'd have to tread extremely careful around me so they don't get hit by venge shot. Ydrasse has not, so I think they are town. I already am confident in andres and mena town. I also think taylor is town since bussing bob here is weird. I don't think scum osuka would push me here either for that same reason as Ydrasse despite being in worse position.
Who has tread carefully around my slot? Bob (especially and I think tried to pocket a bit) , a little of taylor and shelly, and ndmath. I'm extremely certain that the 2 remaining scum are in those 4. I think it is bob and ndmath or shelly.

if im bussing bob does that mean you know bob is scum?

[bob3141]

joyed instead of seeing scum!anybody can you give me a lynch order so we have have some Fun Discussion and I can release my theory on the alignments of plus and ydrasse

here's mine: (least to most)
Shelly
Andres
Menalque
Ydrasse
Math
Bob
Joyed
Osuka

at this point i think bob is more likely than osuka because osuka wouldn't push a venge i think as scum

So why do you think scum wouldnt push a vengful. You take out 2 mislynches for one. With the worse case being you simply swap a scum lynch for nigth kill and move the game to evens. Which benifits scum

[bob3141]

I'll elim bob, shelly, or possibly math today

Why would you even consider shelly. LIke how could shelly ever be partner with the other two names you mentioned. Even with any other player no way is shelly scum this game

[bob3141]

veng

well unless i think if town they will make a stupid veng kill. yds . The fact he claims to scum read yds means his reads are awful if he inst scum. Like a vig who kills town 3 times in row. You dont want to give them any chance to kill more town

the poe should only be osuka, dmath, bob , plus.

Any risk to that then, yes i will be against killing a claimed veng. Kill him last even if he is scum

[bob3141]

And if my poe is wrong. Then im as wrong as anyone this game.

As the wagon gamestate just doesnt make sense unless there is 2 scum in dmath, osuka, plus

[PlusJOYED]

im not dead am i? did i forget that i died?

sorry taylor i think ur town