In post 4317, Andresvmb wrote: In post 4307, bob3141 wrote: In post 4305, Andresvmb wrote:I think there’s some good reasons you defended the Vengeful Claim as Scum too. Obviously you were trying to curry favor there either to not get shot or move the shot towards a Townie. If you’re as good at setup spec as you claim to be, you would have IMMEDIATELY cast doubt on the claim. I know I did. And I’m not nearly as good as I think you are in this particular department. It’s like you want others to believe that you would have always shot a Town PR N1 as Scum. But then you fall for a simple claim that was dubious in the context of the claims we have? I can’t square the two.
because there is hole in claimed town power. There is difference in knowing what inst possible and what is. And more importantly what is likely. Vengful was entirely possible unless there was more claims to town power
informed loyal cop
you role ( miller taht inst a flase guility, a role that is largely useless on its own. )
is no way on its own is that enough town power. Would never get past review.
The less town power roles. The stronger combined they have to be and thats why town power tends to be broken up in several roles.
What isnt a possible role informed on its own. With out some vital info that layer alone must know. Otherwise they dont get put in from design point of view. As it would be superfluous with games more often becoming semi open instead. see noms game i referenced.
Why are you behaving as if it was completely unreasonable to Scum Read you? You defended Kerset. Hard. You pushed IV (as did I, no doubt). You didn’t vote for Kerset. You pushed Teacher. And you minimized Saudade’s doubt of Kerset. Like why am I an idiot because I don’t agree with you here?
im not calling you an idiot. There is difference between awful arguements and idiotic arguements. Your not bad at problem solving it just that you to often take the easy solutions. That are just never right.
argruement that i was against kerset after his roleclaim is resonable. As scum will do that hiding under the fact town will too. But the key thing is town will too. Even if i was in favour based on wagon comp. But thats not teh issue
I pushed Iv yes but in way i never felt it. If you look at the votes, I never voted IV and just ended up saying he was town that messed up. I thought at the end of the day it would of been clear that i was very much against IV. Now me pushing aginst iV kill at the same time inst reason to town read. Thats the bad argument. That you started day one that convinced me you were town.
The thing is i was going to vote kerset. I was just waiting for his answer on my question. But thats not the point. You never x was scum so all of it are scum. You need to look at the flow of votes. Who was pushign against and who although voting for was doing nothing. Take my 3rd scum game. based on votes you never would of thought i was town. I was on one sucm lynch and not one single town lynch. Even though I was the one driving them with back handers.
to be honest saud needed to be focused. Ive seen games be lost because town was split between two scum wagons. We didnt have the votes, so it was bet sauds vote was on something that wasnt IV. As we were on track, as did happen to kill IV.
The thing town does most often is push town. The thing is to look for scum trying to achieve something.
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Half your arguments have been that you think ive made rookie mistakes.
