Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Ydrasse]

i think it makes it less likely taylor than n_m but also i don't think it's a completely hard clear?

i know the temptations to bus to oblivion... it wasn't a winning strategy but i know them.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i wanna vote n_m so i can say i have survived being set up by confirmed/unconfirmed mechanics twice too tbh

p-edit: okay so... is that it? like.

no offense i don't feel comfortable clearing someone getting ran up like that given i just did a game where i did that without any sort of daytalk s:

i mean read the thread and get the nuance if you want. or lets just

VOTE: isis and win

[Loki Dokie]

i wanna vote n_m so i can say i have survived being set up by confirmed/unconfirmed mechanics twice too tbh

p-edit: okay so... is that it? like.

no offense i don't feel comfortable clearing someone getting ran up like that given i just did a game where i did that without any sort of daytalk s:

It’s either NM or you today, we’re not executing Tayl0r. Do yoi think Tayl0r aligns NM with Isis? Why would Pooky do that to a buddy? It’s suboptimal, the same reason why it’s (sincerely no offense to anyone) to think I’m scum here for putting Pooky at E-2, plus she hammered him.

[Loki Dokie]

i think it makes it less likely taylor than n_m but also i don't think it's a completely hard clear?

i know the temptations to bus to oblivion... it wasn't a winning strategy but i know them.

Vote NM, because everything points to it being him. I don’t believe scum!Tayl0r aligns NM with Isis and based on VCA, NM has the best reason for confirming plus. Considering scum don’t have daytalk, I don’t believe Pooky would do that to a buddy.

[Ydrasse]

can you explain to me why scum!taylor wouldn't want to align nm and isis together?

like... in this situation isn't it pretty easy to get through nm as an elim?

[Loki Dokie]

Spoiler:

grrrrrrr! bark bark bark!

RaWrR!

purrrrr!

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

[5] Not Voting: Not_Mafia, Lokie Dokie, drusilla, Kanna

the mafia will choose who to condemn

ROOOAARRR!

wrt to my earlier points, do you think pooky willingly wagons his partner in c1 like this^? and then urges everyone to hurry up with their voting while taylor is still the main wagon?

+ the deadline hammer = pretty solid towncase to me

@Ydrasse, see how Pooky votes Tayl0r really deviously here, then side eyes everyone who hasn’t voted yet?

[Ydrasse]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me; we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

[Kanna]

I watched it all in one sitting I'm not proud of what happened but what happened has happened

this miniseries gives me lots of thoughts

!!!!!

any non-spoiler thoughts? did you like it?

I liked it.

Spoiler:

A lot of scenes felt like a lot of suspension of disbelief on how succinct a conversation could be and how on-the-nose its key points would be. I couldn't put my finger on why I would get this impression versus any other drama but I noticed that feeling a lot. It didn't strain my suspension of disbelief past its individual breaking point but I felt cognizant of it.
There was similarly a lot of "too witty to be unscripted" dialogue, with characters using metaphors and similes and five dollar adjectives unexpectedly. I say similarly but this didn't bug me at all, it was more par for the course, although the last drama I watched was in Korean so I'm sure anything remotely clever was "uhm that phrase doesn't work in English so the subtitles will say she's disappointed in you", but what was different to other dramas was minor characters or evil characters having more equal mastery of it as they played around with terminology from the time period, "see you've got a gentleman admirer; no? is he not a gentleman or not an admirer?". That level playing field contributes to an impression that the other characters perhaps have a richer, right or wrong, view of reality than the protagonist with her nihilistic streak.. the protagonist is clever with language but some of it isn't truly much more clever than "I know you are but what am I?" or "I know you can, but may you?" shallower things.
The protagonist is definitely well balanced a sufficiently relatable vessel for empathy without.. imbalancing it in the wrong ways, I don't want to be more specific there for an unspoilered version. That part felt pretty well nailed to me.

:o now i want to read your spoilered thoughts. i definitely have Thoughts too, but i spent a few mins thinking and don't know if i'm eloquent enough to express them. i always like reading thoughts though

overall, i was very impressed with the craftsmanship of the series. it appealed to me a lot personally and i think there's a lot to discuss within the small details

p-edit: sorry! not game related so feel free to ignore

[Hectic]

Could scum talk pre-game or not?

Yes.

@mod: did scum have any sort of daytalk?

The mafia have daytalk.

[Ydrasse]

...okay but i literally just played a game where i was willing to like. go to the death against my partner. we did not coordinate it but it still happened like that.

if we have confirmation that scum didn't have a chance to talk i will feel more comfortable accepting that case as it is but even in the absence of any sort of day-talking it can still happen.

p-edit: ...

[Loki Dokie]

can you explain to me why scum!taylor wouldn't want to align nm and isis together?

like... in this situation isn't it pretty easy to get through nm as an elim?

No it isn’t at all. Despite absolutely everything but the kitchen sink pointing to him, no one but me wants to vote him. You’d already be dead if Dru and Kanna had a vote because both of them are hellbent on voting you and think there’s still a snowball’s chance I could still be scum here despite it making absolutely 0 sense.

[Kanna]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me; we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

i agree with this, which is why i wondering at the beginning of the day: town obviously wants to lunch the unconfirmed pair, but what does scum want us to do? i think it's slightly fishy you two were townread slots going into today, which suggests scum don't want us to actually lunch you

p-edit: !?

[Ydrasse]

[Kanna]

that's kind of wifomy though so i'm not having that as a Main Point^

[Kanna]

heehee

[Tayl0r Swift]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me; we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

except that coming into today i was the most scumread. so putting me here was safe. id get killed. then you take the safe bet and off the two unconfirmeds, and then NM wins

[Ydrasse]

i am spending all of my mana right now conjuring a spell that helps me make sense of the confirmeds

give me your spirit energy everyone

[Ydrasse]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me; we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

except that coming into today i was the most scumread. so putting me here was safe. id get killed. then you take the safe bet and off the two unconfirmeds, and then NM wins

i feel with that sort of logic it just makes the pool either you or nm because it works in reverse, right?

[Kanna]

for ydrasse ｡･:*:･ﾟ★,｡･:*:･ﾟ☆

[Loki Dokie]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me;

we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

Which is exactly why I keep screaming it’s a bad vote today because it makes 0 sense for either of us to be aligned and not confirm the other and I still for the life of don’t get how this isn’t beyond freaking obvious to either Drusilla or Kanna. The mental gymnastics necessary to go through to think either of us is a better vote than NM, completely blows my mind, so changed my mind about that future Dru paragon nom, because at least Tayl0r is being reasonable.

[Ydrasse]

for kanna: ღゝ◡╹)ノ♡

[Ydrasse]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me;

we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

Which is exactly why I keep screaming it’s a bad vote today because it makes 0 sense for either of us to be aligned and not confirm the other and I still for the life of don’t get how this isn’t beyond freaking obvious to either Drusilla or Kanna. The mental gymnastics necessary to go through to think either of us is a better vote than NM, completely blows my mind, so changed my mind about that future Dru paragon nom, because at least Tayl0r is being reasonable.

being unconfirmed just gives me horrible flashbacks to screaming that i am innocent for days only for solace to come at the very last second.

in all reality, though, i really think that it has to be between nm/taylor especially knowing now that things could've been coordinated?

[Tayl0r Swift]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me;

we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

Which is exactly why I keep screaming it’s a bad vote today because it makes 0 sense for either of us to be aligned and not confirm the other and I still for the life of don’t get how this isn’t beyond freaking obvious to either Drusilla or Kanna. The mental gymnastics necessary to go through to think either of us is a better vote than NM, completely blows my mind, so changed my mind about that future Dru paragon nom, because at least Tayl0r is being reasonable.

being unconfirmed just gives me horrible flashbacks to screaming that i am innocent for days only for solace to come at the very last second.

in all reality, though, i really think that it has to be between nm/taylor especially knowing now that things could've been coordinated?

THEN VOTE ISIS

[Ydrasse]

stop YELLING AT ME ;_;

[Loki Dokie]

like.

taylor is tethered right now to a confirmed, which i feel makes her less of a target compared to you and me; we are both unconfirmed together right now, and to the perspective of all the confirmeds i think that makes it like... we are more likely to contain scum right now. being with a confirmed is an insurance policy.

and then we have nm, who other than taylor is the last unconfirmed. who has done little more than like, vote and pop in once every few days and that's it. it's a lot easier to be active and throw things back and forth and appear townie compared to someone who is doing nothing at all.

p-edit: let me read that now.

i agree with this, which is why i wondering at the beginning of the day: town obviously wants to lunch the unconfirmed pair, but what does scum want us to do? i think it's slightly fishy you two were townread slots going into today, which suggests scum don't want us to actually lunch you

p-edit: !?

Kanna and Drusilla: Please (I’m trying to say this as respectfully as possible):

you do know that there’s at least 1 if not 2 towns between me and Ydrasse right? That freaking means

(stay calm)

that at least one of us is eligible to be confirmed right? So, if either of us are actually scum here, why tf isn’t one of us confirmed?